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  • Notes on the CA state meet

    Just got home from the stadium. I have to say that I was impressed with the running of the meet. This is the first time since 1973 that the meet has been held at a high school, but the facility at Buchanan High is outstanding. A lot of effort has gone into this, and everything has been well organized that I have seen. When we encountered small problems, they were corrected right away.

    We even got *two* breaks from the weather. Usually "Fresno" means blazing unbearable heat, but this week we were worried about rain and possible thunderstorms. Instead, the weather systems all dissipated to the west before they could reach Clovis. Conditions were ideal tonight. Now we just have to have them hold off for one more day, and the prediction is for weather to clear up in time for the 4:30 start tomorrow evening.

    Tomorrow I hope to post live updates to the board as the meet unfolds. Jordan Hasay is said to be confident about taking a run at Mortensen's 9:48. I would not be surprised to see her run considerably faster if the weather cooperates.

    One issue that needs to be raised before the marks propagate onto national lists - there was one heat of the girls hurdles in which there was some sort of timer malfunction, and the result was three runners getting times of 13.59/13.67/13.70. All three times were gigantic PRs, despite similar breakthroughs not being seen in the other heats.

    Because no one could identify the source of the problem, the marks were allowed to stand, but they are clearly not accurate. After consulting with Mike Kennedy, these marks will not be carried. Mike's theory is that this is somehow a hand time, but I don't know enough about how FinishLynx systems work to know if such an explanation is feasible.

    (This is a situation much like the phantom 44.50 from LB Poly several years ago when the timer malfunctioned and produced a momentary national record.)

    Fortunately, it looks like only one runner in this heat (the fourth place finisher) will make the final who shouldn't have. Unfortunately, this meant Ashley Smith of Millikan *not* making the final when she should have.

    A few quick marks from the meet - Randall Carroll 10.34, Akawkaw Ndipagbor 53.45, Josh Mance 47.24 (Reggie Wyatt 47.28), Ashton Purvis 23.51 after false starting in the 100.

    Tomorrow figures to see very competitive and very deep races in the relays and the distances. If someone is willing to take the races out, both 1600s might see significant impact on the yearly lists.

  • #2
    Looking forward to the Brewer (Logan, NCS) vs Boyd (Moreau, NCS) battle in the triple jump. Brewer had the best Q last night (42-2,50), with Boyd also taking only one attempt to Q (41-04,00). Each girl placed fourth and second last year, respectively, with Brewer's now graduated teammate sandwiched between them in third.

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    • #3
      The weather forecast for today now shows a chance of showers throughout the meet.

      Let us hope that we don't see a repeat of '93, when the meet was canceled on Saturday morning because of some light rain, while conditions were ideal by the time the meet was scheduled to start.

      Another add re: the meet - last night's prelims were very well attended. It would not surprise me to see the stadium full tonight. I believe the stadium holds about 8000, which would be good attendance for a meet not held in Los Angeles or Sacramento, which is close enough to the Bay Area to draw a good number of visitors.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cigar95
        I believe the stadium holds about 8000 . . .
        The claim is 13,000: http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1451160.html

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        • #5
          1:51 in a 800 qualifier! wow, is that a record for a cali heat?
          phsstt!

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          • #6
            wasn't Granville's NR in a heat?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bad hammy
              I'm guessing that figure likely includes the big grassy areas in the end zones, plus those small grandstands in the south end zone. The two main grandstands just don't look as big as 13,000.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                1:51 in a 800 qualifier! wow, is that a record for a cali heat?
                Interesting heat. Ruben Danielsen took off and hid, running a 52 opening lap, everyone else letting him go. Of course on the second lap that piano on his ass loomed large, with the field catching him at the 600. The second that he was caught it was as if the piano had been replaced by a cattle prod. He jumped back into the lead, sprinting around the turn. Finally in the homestretch Sean Krinik caught and passed him, but had to fight every step of the way. That is how you get a 1:51 prelim.

                http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage ... 126/184439

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gh
                  wasn't Granville's NR in a heat?
                  Yes. He talks about that in the video in the Granville thread.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gh
                    wasn't Granville's NR in a heat?
                    Yes it was. He also ran 1:49.90 in the heats the previous year - and then got beat in the final.

                    And apart from Granville, who was a bit of an outlier, Michael Haddan ran 1:51.02 in '02 as a soph, and Neil Fitzgerald ran 1:50.94 in '86.

                    (Hat tip to tom Casacky's superb reference on the meet to make looking these up very easy.)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bad hammy
                      Originally posted by gh
                      wasn't Granville's NR in a heat?
                      Yes. He talks about that in the video in the Granville thread.
                      I would have bet my life no one would run a national record for 800 in a heat, i would be dead now. WTF.
                      phsstt!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                        Originally posted by bad hammy
                        Originally posted by gh
                        wasn't Granville's NR in a heat?
                        Yes. He talks about that in the video in the Granville thread.
                        I would have bet my life no one would run a national record for 800 in a heat, i would be dead now. WTF.
                        And I had to just chuckle on another thread, I think it was Epelle who just used the phrase "pulling a Granville" for Wyatt's new HSR.


                        :lol:

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                        • #13
                          Based on the opening day I have to say that the folks of Clovis and all who are managing this event have done an outstanding job. The track facility at Buchanan High School is (from a fan perspective at least) the nicest I have been to for a high school meet. Nice new large stadium. (Not as large as Sacramento City College's Hughes Stadium, but definitely an upgrade facilities-wise. And tons better than Norwalk, which is a dump.) Easy-to-read scoreboards with almost instant results. Nice large grass knolls at both ends of the bowl to spread out on if you want. And many of the seats have (get this) back rests!

                          And, as always, the atmosphere around this meet is electric, and just walking around seeing all of the excited fans and participants reminds me that this is what T&F is all about. Similar to Eugene last year, with a ton more legroom!

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                          • #14
                            OK gang, I'm on site in the press box at Buchanan High. It looks like if all goes well, I should be able to post updates as they happen. But I'm also working the meet, so I probably won't get everything posted in real time.

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                            • #15
                              Why is it that these guys ru so fast in the 800 in high school,but cant improve.doug herron,jeff van wie,granville.Earl Jones did not run a sub 1:50 in high school,but ran a 1:43 as a soph at EMU.

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