¶w4 x 100: Texas A&M 42.36 Collegiate Record (WL)

[guru]

However, it'd be a bit of a shock if Lucas stays for another year. Any word on her staying or signing with a sponsor?

Not sure why she'd walk away from a senior year, especially a year like they could have, to turn pro with nothing going on internationally next year.

[doug091463]

if lucas does turn pro, she would be replaced by jeneba tarmoh, who has tons of potential.

[justblaze1011]

Note to my USATF coaches:

If you wanna learn how to pass a baton with absolute perfection, go get ahold of the Women' s 4x100m team from Texas A&M.

People, I'm here at the meet and saw it live, I have never in all my years seen absolute perfect hand-offs!!! The stick NEVER slowed down in the zone. Everything was full arm length..WOW!!!

[TrackDaddy]

Note to my USATF coaches:

If you wanna learn how to pass a baton with absolute perfection, go get ahold of the Women' s 4x100m team from Texas A&M.

People, I'm here at the meet and saw it live, I have never in all my years seen absolute perfect hand-offs!!! The stick NEVER slowed down in the zone. Everything was full arm length..WOW!!!

Maybe the USATF should bring in Pat Henry?

Didnt they just break a record that one of his past teams had before?

I'm just saying.

[gh]

You mean the people who brought you the out-of-zone exchange in the men's race? :-)

[gm]

You mean the people who brought you the out-of-zone exchange in the men's race? :-)

And, from many reports, in the women's prelims...

[BisonHurdler]

Given the current model of relaying in the U.S., I'd be very surprised if Team USA's handoffs were ever more than just "average" compared to, say, any of the top 20 NCAA teams. Regardless of who's coaching.

[knite]

Note to my USATF coaches:

If you wanna learn how to pass a baton with absolute perfection, go get ahold of the Women' s 4x100m team from Texas A&M.

People, I'm here at the meet and saw it live, I have never in all my years seen absolute perfect hand-offs!!! The stick NEVER slowed down in the zone. Everything was full arm length..WOW!!!

Maybe the USATF should bring in Pat Henry?

Didnt they just break a record that one of his past teams had before?

I'm just saying.

THey had the leg speed though to do it, and they knew it.

LSU had the leg speed last yr and came up with injuries in 2 successive yrs with a member of the 4x1. NOT that they were any threat to A&M this yr.

Not sure if its Anderson or Henry who handles the relay coaching duties. Though I suspect Henry it has had to be a misture of the 2. I know Shaver did quite a bit of work w/the ladies at LSU.

EIther way, A&M did a spectacular job and hats off to them....I know it was probably mixed emotions for Muna who trains in college station w/those girls and was on one of the greatest LSU relay teams ever.

And I do not see Lucas going pro at all this yr. Though she IS very much capable of making top 6 at US nationals! Top 3 is a whole other story!

They get Tarmoah next yr and with adding that talent, that newly set 4x1 record is gonna be SMASHED!!! Tarmoah is probably better than 3 of the girls on the current team....yeah I know! :shock:

[guruof track]

She is maybe better than 2 of those ladies, but definitely not 3.

[TrakFan]

Just saw that relay...text book handoffs and simply enjoyable to watch! Is Henry a Team USA relay coach?

[guru]

Just saw that relay...text book handoffs and simply enjoyable to watch! Is Henry a Team USA relay coach?

The coach is not the problem per se, but the shuffling of personnel from year to year, and the short amount of time/practice after USATF to get things right.

[TrackDaddy]

You mean the people who brought you the out-of-zone exchange in the men's race? :-)

And, from many reports, in the women's prelims...

Yeah, but it would be difficult to run it conservatively and set a record.

[jazzcyclist]

You mean the people who brought you the out-of-zone exchange in the men's race? :-)

And, from many reports, in the women's prelims...

Yeah, but it would be difficult to run it conservatively and set a record.

Exactly! Having followed LSU for many years, and recently Texas A&M, I can tell you that the vast majority of the time that 4x100 teams coached by Henry or Shaver have problems, it's due to passing out of the zone, in which the incoming runner is unable to reach the outgoing runner before the end of the zone, and not many dropped batons. I can remember back about seven or eight years ago, LSU's men were out of the zone for five or six meets in a row, but by the time nationals rolled around, they were clicking and walked away with the national title with the fourth fastest time in NCAA history with not one runner capable of running sub-10.3. Obviously, the outgoing runner leaving early or the incoming runner not running full speed are two of the things that can cause this to happen, but the other thing that can cause this is a strong headwind. In an ideal situation, you would have runners who are experienced enough to adjust the go-marks accordingly in situations when there is a significant tailwind or headwind present.

FYI, here's the updated Top-10 List:

• 1)42.36 --Texas A&M 06/12/09 Henry/Anderson
  2)42.50 --LSU -----------06/02/89 Henry
  3)42.55 --LSU -----------06/13/03 Henry/Shaver
  4)42.59 --LSU -----------04/25/08 Shaver
  4)42.59 --Texas A&M 06/13/08 Henry/Anderson
  6)42.61 --LSU -----------06/11/04 Henry/Shaver
  7)42.63 --LSU -----------04/05/03 Henry/Shaver
  8)42.69 --Texas A&M 04/25/08 Henry/Anderson
  9)42.73 --LSU -----------04/25/03 Henry/Shaver
  10)42.76 Texas ---------06/05/98 Kearney
  10)42.76 LSU -----------05/29/96 Henry/Shaver

[jazzcyclist]

LSU blew the first pass, second runner getting out too slowly and then they couldn't connect the pass as they were too close to each other.

I just saw the replay and it appears that Cabral flat out missed the target the first time she attempted the pass and Henry compounded the problem with the dreaded "windshield wiper" motion.

[gh]

haven't had time to check this out, but one story on press row was that four different coaches protested an out-of-zone pass by A&M woman in the heat, but that since the judge hadn't raised the flag, no protest was allowed.