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¶w1500: Susan Kuijken (Florida St) 4:13.05

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  • tandfman
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    McWilliams was very different from Barringer. For one thing, McW was an 800/1500 runner--the 1500 was her long event, not her short one. And as good as McW was, Barringer is in another league. McW never ran faster than 4:06--Barringer has broken 4:00.

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  • knite
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    Bowman's strength is to go with a fast pace, however in this race, Kuijken, has the right mix of strength ans speed as she boasts best of 2:02x 8:5x in the 3K.

    Bowman, from my memory though isn't the best off of leading the race, her long stride doesn't allow for any type of fast kick at the end, she has a sort of long sustaining kick where it would have to be out from maybe 300m's or so.

    She ran the perfect race indoors, where she was allowed to sit on a fast pace setter in the likes of Kipyego and make her move with 200 to go, but would suffer from the same fate if its her that has to deal with someone of like talent.

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  • dl
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    Originally posted by gh
    I'm no distance-running expert, but to my eye it always seemed that McWilliams was a terrible over-strider, with no hope of mounting any kind of sprint.
    Agree. Bowman has a similar over-stride, although she did muster a decent finish in the NCAA Indoor mile, if I remember correctly.

    McWilliams' coach was a Brooks Johnson disciple. If I had to make a diagnosis as an armchair coach, I'd say that once she was out of college and no longer ran XC in the fall, she didn't have the aerobic background that helped sustain her through the track season as she did while still running for Miss. State.

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  • gh
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    I'm no distance-running expert, but to my eye it always seemed that McWilliams was a terrible over-strider, with no hope of mounting any kind of sprint.

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  • jazzcyclist
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    Originally posted by dl
    Another great job by Jack Pfeifer. He picked the top 4 correctly!

    Bowman is a great runner, but she seems to be a bit like Tiffany McWilliams. If the pace is fast from the gun, she can run away from people, but if not, she doesn't have the gears to win in a slowish race.
    When McWilliams was in college, the only thing she knew how to do was run people into the ground, but then she got to the pros and found out that it was lot harder to run those people into the ground. Like McWilliams, Barringer has survived in college by running everyone into the ground. But the difference, as we found out at Pre, is that she has the extra gear available that she's able to use even off a very fast pace.

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  • Gleason
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    Originally posted by NumberCruncher
    Bowman looked unbeatable last I saw her, although I am pretty sure 1500 is not her specialty, she looked out of sorts on Saturday. Kuijken dominated as expected.
    I agree. I hope that she runs some 3000s in Europe this Summer because 2010 has 3000s at World Indoor Ch, World Cup and (for the last time) WAF.

    I was very impressed with McWilliams when I was presert at the 2003 USAT&F, but she has been a disappointment.

    I hope that Barringer and Willard make the WCh team at Steeple & 1500 because I see no chance for Bowman or McWilliams to earn a medal at OG or WCh.

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  • dl
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    Another great job by Jack Pfeifer. He picked the top 4 correctly!

    Bowman is a great runner, but she seems to be a bit like Tiffany McWilliams. If the pace is fast from the gun, she can run away from people, but if not, she doesn't have the gears to win in a slowish race.

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  • NumberCruncher
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    Bowman looked unbeatable last I saw her, although I am pretty sure 1500 is not her specialty, she looked out of sorts on Saturday. Kuijken dominated as expected.

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  • BisonHurdler
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    Originally posted by gcheves
    Did I miss something or did CBS only show the finish of this race?


    Originally posted by BisonHurdler

    As far as this CBS feed goes, it's pretty much guaranteed we'll only get to see athletes/events involved in the team competition. As usual.

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  • gcheves
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    Did I miss something or did CBS only show the finish of this race?

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  • EPelle
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    Finals
    1 Susan Kuijken SR Florida State 4:13.05 10
    2 Brenda Martinez JR Riverside 4:13.97 8
    3 Lauren Centrowitz SR Stanford 4:14.22 6
    4 Sarah Bowman SR Tennessee 4:14.27 5
    5 Maggie Infeld SR Georgetown 4:14.55 4
    6 Heidi Dahl SR E. Tenn St. 4:15.03 3
    7 Molly Lehman SR Duke 4:15.19 2
    8 Emily Infeld FR Georgetown 4:17.94 1
    9 Lucy VanDalen FR Stony Brook-SUNY 4:18.76
    10 Morgane Gay FR Virginia 4:19.59
    11 Christine Babcock FR Washington 4:20.41
    12 Danielle Tauro SO Michigan 4:24.30

    Wow, every underclass person was put in their respective places in this one.

    Formchart goes 1-2-3 (-4) for gold, silver and bronze.

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  • EPelle
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    Originally posted by gh
    9. 4:15.48 Emily Infeld (Georgetown) 6/11/09
    10. 4:15.56 Morgane Gay (Virginia) 6/11/09

    13. 4:16.10 Christine Babcock (Washington) 6/11/09
    Trivia: These three new additions to the all-time American Junior 1.500m list never faced each other in the 1.500m, 1.600m or mile in high school.

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  • tandfman
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    Originally posted by pickle47
    After watching Bowman get outkicked, what was it, three times at Penn last year, I don't think setting the pace is her strong suit. Doesn't she have the wheels to go with the leaders and then let 'er rip with 200 to go? She's got that long stride, not huge turnover, so I wouldn't wait until the last 80.
    She's looked like a different runner this year. Both at the indoor NCAA's and the Penn Relays, she looked as if she could handle anything. That doesn't mean I think she'll beat Kuijken, but she might just do that. (I also respect Martinez, and she looked good in her heat, but she's never done very well in NCAA finals.)

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  • BillVol
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    Heidi herself chimes in on her transfers in this thread. Pretty cool.

    http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read. ... ad=2827931

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  • Bruce Kritzler
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    Magill also spent a year or two at U of TN in between.

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