Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

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check out this story in Chicago Athlete magazine by T&FN correspondent Don Kopriva.

http://www.chicagoaa.com/news/watnmay03.html

[Guest]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

nice article ... garry: been wondering for a while Now (like acoupla yrs) do you guys keep any data/stats on guys who are not on list, but broke 4:00 on a relay leg?

[MJD]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

"A college teammate set up the race for me at a high school track at Tilsonburg, Ontario, on July 4, 1980,"

That used to be a great meet and the town only had about 10000 people out in tobacco country in the middle of nowhere.

[Cannon]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

I really enjoyed Dave's article--well researched and interestingly written with good up-to-date quotes.I saw saw Jim Spivey win one of his two NCAA titles in 1982 @ Provo, Utah.

I'd love to see a similar article on sub 4 athletes for other states. Which state has the most? I bet Garry Hill can tell us....

[Guest]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Sorry Don...I meant Don, not Dave.

[MJD]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

>"A college teammate set up the race for me at a
>high school track at Tilsonburg, Ontario, on July
>4, 1980,"

College teammate was Paul Gains.

[Guest]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Here's the list I've compiled.

All US sub 4-minute milers by state
based on where they graduated from high school

CA (37)-Brian Abshire, Dan Aldridge, Ed Arriola, Frank Assumma, Jeff Atkinson, Richie Boulet, Don Bowden, Andy Clifford, Ron Cornell, Paul Cummings, Christian Cushing-murray, Tim Danielson, Marc Davis, Bob Day, Joe Fabris, Ernie Freer, Mark Fricker, John Garrison, Matt Giusto, Paul Greer, Morgan Groth, Ronnie Harris, Thom Hunt, Gordon Johnson, Harold Kuphaldt, Gary Lewis, Doug Padilla, Mark Schilling, Steve Scott, Bob Seaman, Tom Smith, Jim Sorenson , Michael Stember, Brian Theriot, Greg Whiteley, Ray Wicksell, Jay Woods

NY (23)-Mark Belger, Barry Brown, Dick Buerkle, Matt Centrowitz, Ross Donoghue, Vince Draddy, Jack Fath, Denis Fikes, John Gregorek, Marty Hemsley, Brian Kivlan, Charles Marsala, Craig Masback, Benny McIntosh, Charlie McMullen, Tom Nohilly, Don Paige, Karl Paranya, Bill Rathbun, Mike Stahr, Brad Sumner, John Trautmann, Mike Wyatt

OR (18)-Gary Barger, Bryan Berryhill, Dan Browne, Dyrol Burleson, Mark Feig, Keith Forman, Jim Grelle, Jamey Harris, Jim Howarth, Ken Martin, Bill McChesney, Mike Miller, Keith Munson, Dub Myers, Steve Prefontaine, Grant Robison, Steve Savage, Dave Wilborn

IL (14)-Scott Anderson, Tim Broe, Mark Deady, Mike Durkin, Darryl Frerker, Richie Harris, Lee LaBadie, Tom O'Hara, Ken Popejoy, Don Sage, Len Sitko, Eddie Slowikowski, Jim Spivey, Rick Wohlhuter

TX (14)-Alan Culpepper, Reed Fischer, Paul Geis, Gawain Guy, Todd Harbour, Eric Henry, Len Hilton, Jason Lunn, Aaron Ramirez, Reuben Reina, Richard Romo, Matt Taylor, Jon Warren, Dave Wittman

WA (13)-Mike Blackmore, Scott Daggatt, Roscoe Divine, Eric Garner, Greg Gibson, Gary Gustafson, Jim Johnson, Buck Jones, Chris Katon, John Quade, Rick Riley, Bruce Stirling, Karl Van Calcar

OH (11)-Tom Byers, Ian Connor, Mark Dailey, Steve Foster, Roosevelt Jackson, Bob Kennedy, Reggie McAfee, Rob Myers, Kevin Ryan, Bob Schul, Dave Wottle
VA (11)-Ibrahim Aden, Bill Burke, Sam Gabremenian, Jim Hill, Kevin Johnson, Sharif Karie, Seneca Lassiter, Juris Luzins, Howell Michael, Clay Schwabe, Alan Webb
PA (10)-Steve Ave, Sam Bair, John Baker, Greg Fredericks, Larry Mangan, Jim Norris, Jerry Richey, Pat Traynor , Paul Vandegrift, Cary Weisiger
KS (9)-Dwight Davis, Bill Dotson, Steve Fein, John Lawson, John Mason, Keith Palmer, Jim Ryun, Archie San Romani Jr., Ken Swenson
MI (9)-Brian Diemer, Gerry Donakowski, Tom Duits, Dan Heikkinen, Brian Hyde, Earl Jones, Paul McMullen, Greg Meyer, Mike Michno
NJ (9)-Jim Crawford, Brian Gallagher, Roger Jones, Rich Kenah, Marty Liquori, Jim McKeon, Cliff Sheehan, Mark Sivieri, Ron Speirs
MA (7)-Mark Coogan, Andy Downin, Json Long, Jonathon Riley, Brad Schlapak, Darren Shearer, Ed Spinney
MN (6)-Steve Holman, Jeff Jirele, Ted Nelson, Steve Plasencia, Mike Slack, Luke Watson
CO (5)-Ted Castaneda, Adam Goucher, Charlie Gruber, Rick Musgrave, Maurice Smith
MO (4)-Michael Cox, Joe Falcon, Ray Hughes, Jason Pyrah,
NM (4)-Chuck Aragon, David Krummenacker, Dan Maas, George Young
WI (4)-Tim Hacker, Gabe Jennings, Steve Lacy, Mark Winzenried
CT (3)-Richard Block, Kevin King, Dan Wilson
ID (3)-Rick Bergesen, Jerald Jones, Tom Von Ruden
IN (3)-Terry Brahm, Rudy Chapa, James Murphy
LA (3)-Jeremy Huffman, Shannon Lemora, Ryan Travis
MD (3)-Matt Holthaus, Dave Patrick, Bob Wheeler
RI (3)-Adam Dixon, Bruce Fischer, Phil Kane
AZ (2)-Chuck LaBenz, Brandon Strong
FL (2)-Tommy Fulton, Brian Jaeger,
HI (2)-Duncan Macdonald, Henry Marsh
IA (2)-Jerome Howe, Randy Wilson
ME (2)-Matt Lane, Eric Nedeau
NC (2)-Jim Beatty, Tony Waldrop
SD (2)-Steve Heidenreich, Jeff Schemmel
UT (2)-Wade Bell, Jeremy Tolman
AL (1)-Steve Bolt
AR (1)-Brian Baker
ND (1)-Corey Imhals
NE (1)-Greg Carlberg
OK (1)-Mike Manke
SC (1)-Terrance Herrington
TN (1)-Bob Whelan
WV (1)-Chris Fox
* Washington, DC (1)-Bob Lesko
* South Africa (1)- Sydney Maree
Zero - AK, DE, GA, KY, MS, MT, NH, NV, VT, WY


Don’t know these 4 guys High School state:
Shane Healy 3:59.23 Cork 1994 (from Ireland?, Adams St)
Larry Rose 3:59.2 Houston (i) 1974 (from South Africa?, Oklahoma St)
Karl Thornton 3:57.9 Philadelphia 1974 (U of Pennsylvania)
Steve Wheeler 3:59.4 Raleigh 1974 (Duke)

[Guest]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

We now need to get a state's "mile power" rating by normalizing these numbers with population.
i.e. #sub-4's/state's population.

[tandfman]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

>We now need to get a state's "mile power" rating by normalizing these numbers with population.
i.e. #sub-4's/state's population.<

Just glancing at that list, I'd say South Dakota wins.

[racewalker]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Using the above list of milers by state and using the 2000 population figures, I calculated the # of sub-4 milers per million people in the state. The undisputed "miler power" champion is (the envelope please...) Oregon!
The list:

STATE POP SUB4's SUB4's per million
OR 3421399 18 5.261006
KS 2688418 9 3.347694
RI 1048319 3 2.861724
SD 754844 2 2.649554
ID 1293953 3 2.318477
WA 5894121 13 2.205588
NM 1819046 4 2.198955
DC 572059 1 1.748071
HI 1211537 2 1.650796
MI 5595211 9 1.608518
ME 1274923 2 1.568722
ND 642200 1 1.557147
VA 7078515 11 1.553998
MN 4919479 6 1.219641
NY 18976457 23 1.212028
CO 4301261 5 1.162450
IL 12419293 14 1.127278
MA 6349097 7 1.102519
CA 33871648 37 1.092359
NJ 8414350 9 1.069601
OH 11353140 11 0.968895
MI 9938444 9 0.905574
UT 2233169 2 0.895588
CT 3405565 3 0.880911
PA 12281054 10 0.814262
WI 5363675 4 0.745757
IA 2926324 2 0.683451
TX 20851820 14 0.671404
LA 4468976 3 0.671295
NE 1711263 1 0.584364
MD 5296486 3 0.566413
WV 1808344 1 0.552992
IN 6080485 3 0.493382
AZ 5130632 2 0.389816
AR 2673400 1 0.374056
OK 3450654 1 0.289800
SC 4012012 1 0.249251
NC 8049313 2 0.248468
AL 4447100 1 0.224866
TN 5689283 1 0.175769
FL 15982378 2 0.125138
WY 493782 0 0.000000
VT 608827 0 0.000000
NV 1998257 0 0.000000
NH 1235786 0 0.000000
MT 902195 0 0.000000
MS 2844658 0 0.000000
KY 4041769 0 0.000000
GA 8186453 0 0.000000
DE 783600 0 0.000000
AK 626932 0 0.000000

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Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Nothing like dredging up a thread that's almost a year old.

Paging JSully! Did you ever find the high schools for the missing guys? inquiring minds want to know!

[jsully]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Still missing Shane Healy. Believe he went to Admas State - can someone ask Vigil?

[HurdlinDub]

Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Shane Healy is Irish, ran at the '96 Olympics and '97 World for Ireland (was coached by Eamonn Coghlan at the time as was Niall Bruton in '97).

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Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

T&FN research--unless we were misled--turned up that Healey had dual citizenship,but at the time of his first sub-4:00 had never represented Ireland, so belongs on the list.

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Re: Sub-4:00 Milers from Illinois

Paging JSully (again!). Did you ever find out where Healy went to HS?

Here's another note, courtesy of sharp-eyed reader: Jason Long is listed as Massachusetts (MA) but that's a misread on Virginia (VA). (Central of Woodstock)