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  • #31
    @ 26-

    Seems like it would make sense to me, but the WC are different from the Olympics. They use to different qualifyin systems. Based on that and that alone, the current system is the best we can really ask for (considering its 2 different bodies).

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    • #32
      For all intents and purposes, the OG/WC qualifying methods are "identical."

      You've got to remember that Nebiolo had it in his mind that his WC was just as big and important as the OG. He made that very clear. And when he invented the wild-card concept it was to promote the IAAF's meet, not the OG.

      I have no idea if the idea of OG wildcards has ever been floated to current IAAF management, but I'd say it's an idea whose time has come. But I'd not expect it to get a lot of support. At least unless they made it the OG champ instead of the world champ.

      You'd not find, for example, a lot of nations willing to sign off on the U.S. having Wariner and Merritt in the meet.... AND THREE MORE!

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      • #33
        [quote=guruof track]
        Originally posted by "2 cents":zp8we7fm
        Gleason, you have shown yourself to be a huge proponent of Xavier Carter running a lot of races. You mention it all the time. You also appear to have some inability to see that Xavier Carter has regressed as an athlete. I too have a difficult time accepting that he is not as good as he once was. You look at him through rose colored lenses. Perhaps he will live up to your expectations, but it really seems that he will not. I once thought he would eventually break 44 seconds in the 400, but now I really don't have any reason to believe this.

        He hasn't regressed, he just has NOT been healthy. Last year he ran a 44.70 last year off NO endurance training and also PRed in the 100 last year. Then he went down to injury. The year before that, he dislocated his knee aat the US Champs came back and ran a 19.92.

        He hasn't been healthy to have the opportunities he has needed to be in his 06 form.[/quote:zp8we7fm]

        I agree, people forget that the kid had surgery on his ankle late last year. He's probably starting to feel good with the ankle.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by texas_speed
          Am I the only one noticing no Torri on the 100 or 200 entry list?

          Same coach and management (HSI) as Carmelita right?

          Hmmmm....
          Torri hasn't exactly set the track on fire this year (only 3 100m races), and at age 32 she may not be super interested. Who knows?

          What's your question again?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by guruof track
            He hasn't regressed, he just has NOT been healthy.
            Well, he has regressed, that is irrefutable, but you might be correct that this is due to not being healthy.

            200 Progression
            2006 19.63
            2007 19.92
            2008 20.25
            2009 20.27 (season not over)

            400 Progression
            2006 44.53
            2007 45.26
            2008 44.70
            2009 45.75 (season not over)

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            • #36
              He runs the 100 too, care to put those stats up???

              I could go in to detail of why some of those times are not, but its not worth it.

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              • #37
                I could tell you why the sky is not blue, but it is not worth it. I'm now convinced guru of track that you do not know the meaning of regression, and that is OK. I'm not here to judge anybody, or violate rule 15.

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                • #38
                  I know what regression is. Figures lie and well I won't go there.

                  Now do you care to list his 100 times?? He runs more than the 200/400 competitively right??? Unless that progression chart doesn't fit in your arguement.

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                  • #39
                    Yes, his 100 has improved, but overall he has regressed. He had the 6th fastest 100 in the quarterfinals at the U.S. Olympic Trials last year, in setting his pr of 10.00, faster than a high school kid, who ran 10.01.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 2 cents
                      Yes, his 100 has improved, but overall he has regressed. He had the 6th fastest 100 in the quarterfinals at the U.S. Olympic Trials last year, in setting his pr of 10.00, faster than a high school kid, who ran 10.01.
                      See that was easy.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 2 cents
                        Yes, his 100 has improved, but overall he has regressed. He had the 6th fastest 100 in the quarterfinals at the U.S. Olympic Trials last year, in setting his pr of 10.00, faster than a high school kid, who ran 10.01.
                        See that was easy.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gm
                          Originally posted by texas_speed
                          Am I the only one noticing no Torri on the 100 or 200 entry list?

                          Same coach and management (HSI) as Carmelita right?

                          Hmmmm....
                          Torri hasn't exactly set the track on fire this year (only 3 100m races), and at age 32 she may not be super interested. Who knows?

                          What's your question again?
                          Just found it interesting Torri isn't listed. I'm sure that could change but if it doesn't itd be a quiet "ending" of sorts for her.

                          Sorry I didn't ask a question that suited your fancy...thought this thread was about things to ponder...regardless of age I just figured we wouldve heard a tad more about what her plans would be...that's all.

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                          • #43
                            I think Xman has a real chance to make the 400m team, run high to mid 44, and quiet his critics.

                            I'd love to see that happen.
                            The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                            • #44
                              When are the USA and IAAF Worlds boards going up? I vote the sooner the better.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by knite
                                what? So then tell me why he should double??? :?
                                I did at 1:53pm today on this topic.
                                none

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