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  • knite
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    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by knite
    No need to argue here, as the IAAF are not instituting rabbits in major champs.
    But if a legit finalist is willing to sacrifice himself for a teammate like Kaouch did, there's nothing they can do about it.
    I agree, but the individual goals was sacrificed for the bigger goal, and that was to make sure El G got the best race possible, that is, for his talentes to outwit everyone else.

    Which makes me state why don't the US athletes run with some type of urgency, go for broke why don't you....it shouldn't be enough to go into a heat and lose while running 3:40x

    I would feel like I cheated myself

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  • Powell
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    Originally posted by knite
    No need to argue here, as the IAAF are not instituting rabbits in major champs.
    But if a legit finalist is willing to sacrifice himself for a teammate like Kaouch did, there's nothing they can do about it.

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  • Powell
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    I anagrammed 'Powell the Pole' but just got a lot of 'poop' jokes! :twisted:
    I got "tell people how" :P

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  • knite
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    No need to argue here, as the IAAF are not instituting rabbits in major champs.

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  • catson52
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    Originally posted by Speedfirst
    Originally posted by lonewolf
    Originally posted by catson52
    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    f a person sets the pace for say 2-3 laps and finishes the race, but way back, is he a rabbit?
    Yes, he/she is probably still a rabbit but since it is difficult/impossible to prove intent, ya got me.
    Let's not muddy the waters, the rabbits we're referencing are the one's who are paid to set the pace, those rabbits. Again IMO, forget the rabbits, if you want a certain pace as an athlete, train for it and YOU run that pace YOU want..
    "Payment" can take differnt forms. From Bannister's race, Chataway (in TF circles) is as well known for that effort as (a) beating Kuts in a 3 mile (or was it 5 K?) WR race at White City, and his fall on the final turn in the Helsinki 5K. Brasher, though an OG champion, is equally well known for his pace setting effort in one of history's most famous "races".

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by knite
    There's no point in having a rabbit in a major meet, that is what the competition is for.
    If you like 3:41 1500s and 13:45 5000s, then you are correct, sir!
    I see rabbits as 'Honesty Keepers'. If you win a Golden League meet, you should have to pay the price of a hyper-fast pace. If you win a championship meet, you can sit and kick all you want.

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by Powell
    "Tafnut Marlow" anagrams to "anal tuft worm"
    I anagrammed 'Powell the Pole' but just got a lot of 'poop' jokes! :twisted:

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  • Speedfirst
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    Originally posted by lonewolf
    Originally posted by catson52
    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    f a person sets the pace for say 2-3 laps and finishes the race, but way back, is he a rabbit?
    Yes, he/she is probably still a rabbit but since it is difficult/impossible to prove intent, ya got me.
    Let's not muddy the waters, the rabbits we're referencing are the one's who are paid to set the pace, those rabbits. Again IMO, forget the rabbits, if you want a certain pace as an athlete, train for it and YOU run that pace YOU want..

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  • knite
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    There's no point in having a rabbit in a major meet, that is what the competition is for.

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  • lonewolf
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    Originally posted by catson52
    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    f a person sets the pace for say 2-3 laps and finishes the race, but way back, is he a rabbit?
    Yes, he/she is probably still a rabbit but since it is difficult/impossible to prove intent, ya got me.

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  • catson52
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    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    This would eliminate a large number of 1500m/mile records. One may as well start in the 1940s, throw in Bannister's run, Elliott's Dublin race, a number of Coe/Ovett efforts, most of Morcelli and El G's. Should one throw in Walter George's effort? Part of the problem is what exactly is a rabbit. If a person sets the pace for say 2-3 laps and finishes the race, but way back, is he a rabbit?

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  • lonewolf
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    Originally posted by ndamix
    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    What about jumping rabbits? :wink: :lol:
    Nope, they mess up the sand. :evil:

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  • ndamix
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    Originally posted by lonewolf
    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.
    What about jumping rabbits? :wink: :lol:

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  • lonewolf
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    I do not favor rabbits in any race at any level.

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  • catson52
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    One of the best known such races was the Seville 1999 1500m. Looking at it again on U-tube. (1) Kaouch was the "rabbit" from almost exactly 30 s to 120 s in the race, El G led the rest of the way. (2) The races real character was set up by Estevez coming up at the bell to push the pace, which led to a much faster race - the fastest OG or WC race yet? (3) Without (2) could Ngeny have reeled in El G on the last lap, as he did in Sydney in 2000? I doubt it and point out (a) the won loss record between these two in direct clashes. (b) Ngeny had few winning sub 3:46 (mile), 3:29 (1500) races - as compared to a vast slew in El G's name. Most of Ngeny's really fast times were set by chasing El G.

    Conclusion: Rabbit or no rabbit, this was a very exciting race, and was won by the best runner/racer.

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