Euro Team Champs Day 2 [split]

[Sinafan]

And here again a few numbers with an explanation

EAA Prediction Day 1
Standing after Day 1
EAA Prediction Day 1
Total of Day 1 und EAA Prediction Day 2
Corrected EAA Prediction based on the loss/win percentage of the team on first day compared with the prediction
Total of Day 1 and corrected EAA Prediction Day 2

GER 178 158,5 180 338,5 160 318,5
RUS 189 164 161 325 140 304
FRA 140 159,5 144 303,5 164 324
POL 156 153 153 306 153 303
UKR 152 155 133 288 136 291
GBR 177 165 125 290 117 282
ITA 130 140 132 272 142 282
ESP 113 117 124 241 128 245
CZE 111 123 86 209 95 218
POR 118 111 79 190 74 185
GRE 101 112 67 179 74 186
SWE 73 72 98 170 97 169

It simply means that Russia and Germany are the losers of Day 1 while France is the big winner. If these nations exceed/disappoint at the same level as yesterday, France will win. If they keep up to the original prediction Germany will win.
Portugal, Greece and Sweden go down in any case.

[EPelle]

Darn ... previous thread locked during post...

Bába, after having cleared 2.31m today, broke a 24-finals streak where he had not been able to reach this height (or higher). His last clearance over this was at his 2008 NIC.

Bába had not broken the 2.30m barrier outdoors since 14-september 2005 (!)

No he cleared the same height in Thessaloniki ( 10 june )....

Thank you! I'd completely looked past that big, honking, bold 2.31 SB, assuming that Tilastopaja was already updated as of end of comp yesterday (wishful thinking). Cheers.

So, rephrased, Bába, before his last two competitions - he seems to now be on a roll, had not cleared 2.30m outdoors since 14-september-2005.

[FrankS]

Re: Rui Silva

[quote=He's only 31 but he looks a bit older and has been at this level for yonks![/quote]

I remember Seb Coe commenting on a 1500m race a few years ago, and saying to Steve Cram that he must have run against Rui Silva! Maybe not! I'm sure Rui could only have been 13 or 14 when Cram retired. However, it does give credence to the feeling that Rui has been around forever!

[nevetsllim]

[quote=FrankS]Re: Rui Silva

I remember Seb Coe commenting on a 1500m race a few years ago, and saying to Steve Cram that he must have run against Rui Silva! Maybe not! I'm sure Rui could only have been 13 or 14 when Cram retired. However, it does give credence to the feeling that Rui has been around forever!

Seb Coe doesn't know that much about athletics - he didn't even recognise Lisa Dobriskey on Question of Sport! :P

Perhaps Seb meant Mario Silva?

[imaginative]

In all fairness, there is more to athletics knowledge than being up to par
with current athletes. I dare say, for instance, that Coe knows more about
race tactics, middle-distance training, and runners of the late seventies/early
eighties than most of us do.

[AthleticsInBritain]

I was going to mention that imaginative, thanks. I was also going to say he may not recognise Lisa Dobriskey, but at least he knows where lane 2 is on a track and when to use it but perhaps that's a little harsh? :twisted:

[LopenUupunut]

I'd call myself reasonably knowledgeable as far as our sport is concerned and probably wouldn't recognize any current athletes. (But I entirely lack the inbuilt ability to recognize faces so I probably don't count.)

Tommi Evilä after the 1st league long jump:

We [the competitors] were talking about the system... those who spoke English said it was horrible. Those who didn't merely gave it a thumbs-down.

[EPelle]

I dare say, for instance, that Coe knows more about race tactics, middle-distance training, and runners of the late seventies/early eighties than most of us do.

That's all good for trivial pursuits. However, what bearing does that have on 2009, specifically the last statement?

[The Atheist]

I was expecting Dwain to be a little faster than 10.07 with all his big talk and whatnot

Oh wells

Usain Bolt should be able to sleep easy me thinks

[mump boy]

I think if ever I was going to turn off an athletics meeting on TV, it would be after that race. What a farce! I'm glad the men's and women's teams are finally competing together, but really!

I'm lost for words really as it's dreadful. Where are Mump and Flump???

Spiegelburg fails her 2nd attempt at 4.65m btw!

oh are you missing us we were in MIlan just finished watching yesterdays and will comment in a minute. we will be with you today

[mump boy]

Shustov clear at 2.31m.equalling his lifetime best. And he's what? The 4th string Russian man? :shock:

ETA: That's a fantastic photo of Kate Dennison #6!!! And yep - it does look quite hot. It's a beautiful stadium with a nice view of the castle on the hill behind it.

stadium in Liera is great but Liera is in the middle of nowhere so it's a funny place to hold the event.

[mump boy]

i was in Milan yesterday so couldn't join in the fun but i've just watched it all and have the following comments.

hannah england was amazing
same with kate dennison who easily has 4.60 this year
mo ran a great tactical race and will break 13mins at CP and be at leat top 6 at WC

DTTH is even more ridiculous than i had feared

Steve Cram is one of my favourite people in the world. his commentary is spot on, he's fearless, articulate and funny. his idea of awarding extra points for being in the lead at certain points is perfect.

i don't understand the vertical jumps rules. i thought you had only 7 attempts, now it seems you only have 4 failures !!!

dropping people and showcasing the last 4 attempts doesn't work at all, especially if tv doesn't bother to show them or expalin what's going on before.

12 teams isn't as bad as i thought, 2 heats has worked ok so far. Wait till there are massive wind differences and it will be a different story. Of coure it would have been better with Levina and Obikwelu in the A race but they should have run better QT time. It's now part of the comp and should be considered when selecting athletes.

i love we have combined teams but it would also be good to mens and womend results

it has been great to have hardly and drug talk but this is mainly coz dwayne has managed to keep his mouth shut for 3 months and not create any more drama.

WTF is going on with RUS :shock: :shock:

[Powell]

And here again a few numbers with an explanation

EAA Prediction Day 1
Standing after Day 1
EAA Prediction Day 1
Total of Day 1 und EAA Prediction Day 2
Corrected EAA Prediction based on the loss/win percentage of the team on first day compared with the prediction
Total of Day 1 and corrected EAA Prediction Day 2

GER 178 158,5 180 338,5 160 318,5
RUS 189 164 161 325 140 304
FRA 140 159,5 144 303,5 164 324
POL 156 153 153 306 153 303
UKR 152 155 133 288 136 291
GBR 177 165 125 290 117 282
ITA 130 140 132 272 142 282
ESP 113 117 124 241 128 245
CZE 111 123 86 209 95 218
POR 118 111 79 190 74 185
GRE 101 112 67 179 74 186
SWE 73 72 98 170 97 169

It simply means that Russia and Germany are the losers of Day 1 while France is the big winner. If these nations exceed/disappoint at the same level as yesterday, France will win. If they keep up to the original prediction Germany will win.
Portugal, Greece and Sweden go down in any case.

Looking at my predictions, I would agree Russia and Germany were also well down on the predicted score after day 1 - Russia was 34 points under par, Germany 16 under. France, though, was only marginally above the predicted level - by 3.5 points. Poland was 2 points above, UK 5 points under, Ukraine 13 points under.

[26mi235]

So, given a fixed number of points, how can essentially everyone be under the predictions?

[Powell]

So, given a fixed number of points, how can essentially everyone be under the predictions?

Not everyone. The weaker teams are mostly above predictions, which is understandable: there are bound to be some surprises where the favourites underperform and underdogs place higher than expected, so in most cases the better teams will be below the predicted number of points and the weaker ones will be above.

According to my predictions, Spain, Italy and Portugal are each 12.5 points above par and Greece is 11.5 above.