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2009 USATF: wTJ - Shakeema Welsch w46-11/14.30m

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  • Kai88
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    Ashia Hansen the great British triple jumper who had a best of 15.16m was born in the USA but was adopted and moved after 3 months...

    So the US has sort of had an American women go over 15m......

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  • cacique
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    well, two american women made the final of the HT, so that's not too bad...

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    As a Marks Snob, I'd really, really like at least one 47 and a couple 46s, but alas, I fear it is not to be. The plight of Ami wTJers continues to vex me (as do the wJTers and wHTers).
    So the Cuban, Mabel Gay, drops in on the Tallinn meet, physically and mentally spent from the WC, and pops a pretty good jump - 48' (14.64).

    which is, of course, farther than ANY American woman has EVER jumped.

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by TripleJump
    there's also much less opportunity to even try the event than there could be given the good number of states that don't have TJ at the HS level.
    How many don't?! The overwhelming majority do.

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  • TripleJump
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    Originally posted by Marlow
    4. there is PLENTY of opportunity! Every stinkin' year we have some very good HS girls who seem to disappear after HS. Are coaches simply not recruiting them? Or are they just turning them into hurdlers or LJers (which IS easier to coach)? It really isn't an orphan event; there's plenty of girls competing in it at all the track meets we go to.
    In the Jr comp, a California prep won

    Alitta Boyd 43-8w

    She's going to USC with Reggie Wyatt. Here's hoping they both continue to improve!
    There may be opportunity in the sense that some TJers disappear (including boys too), but there's also much less opportunity to even try the event than there could be given the good number of states that don't have TJ at the HS level.

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    4. there is PLENTY of opportunity! Every stinkin' year we have some very good HS girls who seem to disappear after HS. Are coaches simply not recruiting them? Or are they just turning them into hurdlers or LJers (which IS easier to coach)? It really isn't an orphan event; there's plenty of girls competing in it at all the track meets we go to.
    In the Jr comp, a California prep won

    Alitta Boyd 43-8w

    She's going to USC with Reggie Wyatt. Here's hoping they both continue to improve!

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  • Jim Rorick
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    Welsch has a B qualifier; McCain has an A. So they're both on the team. No one 3-10 has even a B qualifier. #11 Marks has an A from last year. So 3-10 need to get the 14.20 qualifier to make the team (not likely).

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  • bhall
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    Code:
      1 Shakeema Welsch              unattached              14.30m   2.9  46-11.00
         13.90m(2.3) 14.30m(2.9) PASS      FOUL      14.04m(2.7) 13.94m(3.2)       
      2 Erica McLain                 Nike                    13.91m   2.8  45-07.75
         13.69m(1.8) 13.88m(1.4) 13.86m(1.0) 13.91m(2.8) 13.68m(1.4) FOUL          
      3 Toni Smith                   unattached              13.90m   2.7  45-07.25
         13.32m(2.1) 13.65m(3.1) 13.75m(2.2) 13.86m(2.0) 13.90m(2.7) 11.27m(2.7)   
      4 Yvette Lewis                 Nike                    13.88m   3.8  45-06.50
         13.88m(3.8) 13.75m(1.3) 13.72m(2.6) FOUL      13.33m(2.3) 13.81m(3.4)     
      5 Crystal Manning              unattached              13.73m   2.8  45-00.50
         13.73m(2.8) 13.41m(2.4) 12.96m(2.6) FOUL      FOUL      13.48m(4.8)       
      6 Amanda Thieschafer           unattached              13.64m   3.1  44-09.00
         FOUL      13.61m(3.3) 13.53m(3.0) 13.30m(0.8) 13.64m(3.1) 13.30m(1.5)     
      7 Blessing Ufodiama            unattached              13.59m   1.4  44-07.00
         13.35m(3.4) 13.05m(1.5) 13.48m(3.0) 13.59m(1.4) 13.13m(3.2) FOUL          
      8 Sherita Williams             G B T C                 13.33m   3.8  43-09.00
         13.33m(3.8) FOUL      11.31m(2.5) 12.88m(2.9) FOUL      FOUL              
      9 Tahari James                 Boston                  13.15m   4.0  43-01.75
         13.15m(4.0) 13.03m(3.1) 12.97m(2.4)                                       
      9 TiAra Walpool                Kansas State            13.15m   3.1  43-01.75
         13.15m(3.1) FOUL      12.36m(3.1)                                         
     11 Shani Marks                  Nike                    13.14m   3.5  43-01.50
         FOUL      13.14m(3.5) FOUL                                                
     12 Jasmine Simmons              unattached              12.97m   3.3  42-06.75
         12.97m(3.3) 12.81m(2.5) 12.17m(1.1)                                       
     13 Lauren Martin                Indiana State           12.95m   1.2  42-06.00
         12.95m(1.2) 12.93m(3.9) 12.63m(2.3)                                       
     14 Lena Bettis                  unattached              12.82m   2.8  42-00.75
         FOUL      12.82m(2.8) 12.80m(2.3)                                         
     15 Tamara Highsmith             ConnQuest               12.78m   2.5  41-11.25
         12.78m(2.5) 12.46m(3.2) 12.71m(2.6)                                       
     16 Casey Taylor                 Michigan                12.54m   2.9  41-01.75
         12.54m(2.9) FOUL      FOUL                                                
     17 Jennifer Gurrant             Albany                  12.44m   1.6  40-09.75
         12.05m(3.1) 12.29m(2.6) 12.44m(1.6)

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  • jeremyp
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    Originally posted by Moura
    Originally posted by jeremyp
    Anybody please, who won Triple and who was 2/3? Thanks
    Welsch
    McLain
    Smith
    Thanks! Any idea where Lewis was?

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  • Moura
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    Originally posted by jeremyp
    Anybody please, who won Triple and who was 2/3? Thanks
    Welsch
    McLain
    Smith

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  • jeremyp
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    Anybody please, who won Triple and who was 2/3? Thanks

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  • Moura
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    Originally posted by Moura
    My pick:

    Welsch
    Marks
    McLain
    Welsch did well, Marks not at all. To Berlin, not very good expectations, still a weak event in US TF.

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by 26mi235
    My guess is that the problem has these elements:
    1. It is not a glamor/high-reward event
    2. Good candidates are lost to: a) the sprints; and b) other sports
    3. The coaching is less than ideal (but how can there be NO qualified coaches that can attract good candidates?); and
    4. there are limited opportunities starting even from HS and youth T&F where it is a bit of an orphan event
    1. yes
    2. yes
    3. as you note, there certainly ARE good coaches around
    4. there is PLENTY of opportunity! Every stinkin' year we have some very good HS girls who seem to disappear after HS. Are coaches simply not recruiting them? Or are they just turning them into hurdlers or LJers (which IS easier to coach)? It really isn't an orphan event; there's plenty of girls competing in it at all the track meets we go to.

    My only answer is that other countries focus on it more, because it really is an event you can 'change' an athlete a lot in. Really good technical training and brutish weight room work does wonders for the TJ. It's the same with the HT and the JT. Other countries see it as an area that can be exploited very well. We don't.

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  • 26mi235
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    My guess is that the problem has these elements:
    • 1. It is not a glamor/high-reward event
      2. Good candidates are lost to: a) the sprints; and b) other sports
      3. The coaching is less than ideal (but how can there be NO qualified coaches that can attract good candidates?); and
      4. there are limited opportunities starting even from HS and youth T&F where it is a bit of an orphan event


    Note that I am not the smart one here, Marlow and others (including tafnut :wink: ) have made these points numerous times here.

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  • dal4018
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    As a Marks Snob, I'd really, really like at least one 47 and a couple 46s, but alas, I fear it is not to be. The plight of Ami wTJers continues to vex me (as do the wJTers and wHTers).
    Do you think it comes from a lack of overall body strength?

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