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  • BCfan
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    I don't know...I kinda like seeing Bryan in a speed suit!!

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  • Pego
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    Everything you said I accept at its face value except the last sentence. I repeat, to me this has nothing to do with the sport of T&F and everything with "entertainment" of the sort I deem appalling and refuse to honor by watching it. Sorry.

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  • Grasshopper
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    Pego, the answer is yes and no.

    After watching the program my opinion was swayed somewhat, as I was very dissappointed with the last segment of the show which was definitely degrading towards "little people" and which forced an animal to compete under a high amount of anxiety. I also thought it was kind of stupid how they over dramatized everything, acting as if the animals actually know that they're involved in some sort of competition, and the athletes are actually taking this seriously. That was a little insulting to us as the viewers.

    As for the rest of the show, I thought it was all in good fun. The three other animals (the long-jumping dog, hanging oragatang(spelling?), and tree-climbing chimp) were all obviously having fun, as were the athletes. I still don't think that Bryan's participation in this event was at all degrading to his image. If anything, it gave him some good publicity (although he did "lose" to the dog because of a lame measuring system) with his short bio, interview, and training footage.

    I don't understand why the poster above says that Bryan should feel "ashamed" for having participated. He took advantage of an opportunity to have some fun, get involved with the hollywood culture that he lives in (Bryan trains in L.A.), and probably pocket a little cash - all in the process of promoting the sport he loves. Don't hold the end result of the progam against him, I doubt that he had any knowledge of what other segments/competitions were being produced, or how overly dramatized it would be.

    Of course, I don't know how you can comment on any of this since you didn't even watch it. When you don't contribute to the ratings that a few track athletes draw for a novelty competition, don't complain when the networks don't want to air any normal track competitions.

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  • Pego
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    Grasshopper, do you still insist that I am wrong? (I did not watch this abomination, BTW).

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  • ZZrunZZ
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    I was channel surfing on my TV last night and came across the Man vs Beast 2 show. It was like watching a car accident scene. I didn't want to watch but could not help myself.

    At a time when we T&F fans are thankful to get even 2 laps of a distance race televised I found myself staring at extensive, full, in-depth, commercial free (in the sense of the actual "competition" not being interrupted by a commeercial break) coverage of:

    * A potential USA Olympic team decathlete long jumping against a freaking dog (into a lake)....the dog "won". Carl Lewis provided the commentary (how suitable!)

    * A national class USA male gymnast hanging on a high bar to see if he could outlast an oranguatang.....the gymnast "won".....but the ape took a monster piss in the middle of the event which won him styple points I'm sure (Bart Connor providing the commentary.)

    * A "champion" Sumoan tree climber racing up and down a palm tree against a chimpanzee (they split 1-1...I forget who the commentator was for this event.)

    and my absolute favorite event....

    * Four midgets/dwarfs/little people running a 330 yard "relay" against a goddamn camel!!! (The camel "won"). Dan O'Brien provided the commentary for this ridiculous event.

    I'm still not sure how I feel about this. The fact that Fox TV would produce such and event astounds me. But then again US television has become (always been?) programming for the lowest common denominator.

    I am angered/depressed that this kind of event gets better coverage than the non-existent coverage of the US men's Olympic marathon trials.

    Man, we live in a screwed up world!

    The Bryan Clay and the commentators (especially Lewis and O'Brien) should be ashamed of themselves for stooping to this level of BS. Pathetic.

    Oh, and apparently there was a Man vs Beast One that I somehow missed last week.

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  • Per Andersen
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    With all due respect to MJR, Jenny Adams choked, she was not even close to the dogs. All experienced Water jumpers know that the Hang is superior. I know it is weird but that's how it is.
    Stringfellow was toying with the beasts to such a degree that I am amazed this subject comes up again.

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  • abinferno
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    hahahaha, I almost died laughing. What a farce. The dog lands at 23' but gets credited with 27.5' because his head was up. The seriousness with which this was presented was insanely comical. Carl Lewis has been relegated to a joke. Just go run the '88 olympic race again Lewis, do yourself a favor. If he can exploit himself on this spectacle, he should at least rerun the race. Movie career? I can hear the phones ringing off the hook right now.

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  • MJR
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    I object to Carl Lewis getting brought in to make money on a sport that he turned his back on years ago because his own ego wasn't being stroked. The killer was not showing up to the Hall of Fame Banquet becuase he was working on a movie. His 60 second part never left the editing room.

    Yes, the whole premise of this is stupid entertainment, but who really cares when millions turn on crap like Survivor and the Apprentice. Anything that we can do to showcase the talents of T&F athletes is ok with me. I just hope that they allow Bryan the run up that he needs to jump and don't shorten it to suit the needs of the dog, which can accelerate faster than he can. He should do well, as Jenny Adams almost beat the dog on the Tonight Show and she was six stepping her run-up on a loose astroturf runway.

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  • Pego
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    I am sure we'll agree on one thing. I'd prefer Stacy Dragila in the bikini to a contest against a dog :-)

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  • satch
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    >This reminds me of the long jumper who jumped
    over a car on national TV
    >several years ago.
    Does anyone remember the guy's name?

    HARVEY GLANCE

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  • Grasshopper
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    >Grasshopper, I respectfully disagree. The dog is not what bothers me, it's the
    >human. I DO think it's degrading (the flashback to Owens vs. the horse). And,
    >no, I don't think it promotes T&F. It just occurred to me what it really is.
    >It's a circus freak show.

    Pego, circus freak show or not, the fact is nobody is paying much attention to track and field these days (unless you count steroid scandals). If taking our athletes into the center ring of a circus (as you put it) is what it takes to get people to watch then maybe that's what we need to do for a while. Like I said before, how many people are tuning in to see "man vs. man" track competitions? Pole vaulters have had success taking their sport onto the beach and city street to give the general public some perspective on their event. I don't think many people criticized Stacy Dragila for sporting a bikini at the beach vault to get herself a little exposure. A little novelty can go a long way to freshen out sport up a bit. As for the degradation aspect, Bryan is a decathlete in the US, ANY media exposure is a step up in status for him (among the general public). Remeber, in the American pop-culture one's status is almost directly proportionate to the amount of media one is given. If the goal is to raise the status of T&F in the U.S., then media exposure (other than drug scandals!) is what is needed.

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  • hj197steve
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    >This reminds me of the long jumper who jumped
    over a car on national TV
    >several years ago.
    Does anyone remember the guy's name?

    don't know, but my brother jumped over a Corvette once(many years ago !) when I egged him into it. We were both "under the influence " at the time... fortunately he made it !

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  • Pego
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    Grasshopper, I respectfully disagree. The dog is not what bothers me, it's the human. I DO think it's degrading (the flashback to Owens vs. the horse). And, no, I don't think it promotes T&F. It just occurred to me what it really is. It's a circus freak show.

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  • Whitman
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    This reminds me of the long jumper who jumped
    over a car on national TV several years ago.
    Does anyone remember the guy's name?

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  • Grasshopper
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    In don't agree that it is degrading, but I do agree that "reality" tv goes way overboard in many cases (thank you for your input, by the way). I also don't think that this show is trying to be a "real" sport or action, it knows that it's a novelty and promotes itself that way. The main reason that I'm excited about it is that it brings positive attention to a track and field athlete (and one that I'm a big fan of). The reason that I believe that it is "positive" attention is because of the old saying, "a picture is worth a thousand words". Track and Field is the one of the most visually stunning and beautiful sports in the world, and it has to be SEEN to be truly appreciated. Someone may READ about Bryan long jumping 25 feet (a great distance for a decathlete) in the newspaper, but unless they're a track fan already that won't really mean anything to them or do anything to draw their interest to the sport. But when they actually SEE him jumping (even if its on a novelty TV program) it has 1000 times the potential of impressing them and getting them interested in track and field. Also, if you've ever met Bryan you'll know that he's one of the most gentle and compassionate people in the world and would never participate in anything harmful or dangerous for an animal. I just hope that we can all cheer Bryan on, and be happy for his opportunity to get a little exposure for our sport (and for himself). How many "Man vs. Man" long jump cometitions get prime-time TV coverage?

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