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  • 2009 USATF: mPV - Brad Walker 18-10¼/5.75m

    1. Derek Miles (Nike) 1
    2. Brad Walker (Nike) 2
    3. Jeremy Scott (Nike) 7
    4. Jason Colwick (Rice) nr
    5. Tim Mack (Nike) 6
    6. Mark Hollis (unat) nr
    7. Brian Mondschein (PV Power) nr
    8. Jacob Pauli (Nike) 5
    9. Scott Roth (Washington) nr
    10. Jeff Ryan (VS Athletics) nr

    Oops. 2nd draft of formchart was mLJ. Fixed.

  • #2
    Re: 2009 USATF: mPV

    Originally posted by bhall
    1. Dwight Phillips (Nike) 4
    2. Brian Johnson (Nike) 2
    3. Miguel Pate (Nike) 1
    4. Trevell Quinley (Nike) 3
    5. Matt Turner (unat) 5
    6. JaRod Tobler (H-P Center) 6
    7. Jeff Henderson (Hinds CC) nr
    8. Reindell Cole (CS Northridge) 7
    9. Jeremy Hicks (LSU) nr
    10. Randall Flimmons (unat) nr
    I'll bet with that bunch of shitty vaulters, 8' wins it.

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    • #3
      A lot of question marks out there. Miles hasn't had the chance to compete much outdoors, but I suspect he'll be just fine and probably has the best shot at winning it.

      Walker is pretty banged up, but he's used to jumping with injuries, so he could still do something decent, but he knows he can no height and still go to Worlds, so he probably won't push it.

      Jeremy Scott has been jumping well lately. Colwick will probably either PR or NH. Mack and Pauli haven't done much this year. Hollis, Mondschein, Roth, and Jeff Ryan, are young guys and I predict at least one will have a breakthrough meet and place top 5.

      Skipper barely qualified with a mark from last year. You never know though, maybe he'll put it together at this meet and jump big. Oregon would be the place for him to do that.

      I think the winning height will be 5.70-5.75, with 5.60-65 having a shot at making the team. If the sun is out and there is a smoking tailwind, maybe add 5-10cm to that.

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      • #4
        My pick :

        Miles
        Scott
        Colwick

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        • #5
          Re: 2009 USATF: mPV

          Originally posted by Cooter Brown
          Originally posted by bhall
          1. Dwight Phillips (Nike) 4
          2. Brian Johnson (Nike) 2
          3. Miguel Pate (Nike) 1
          4. Trevell Quinley (Nike) 3
          5. Matt Turner (unat) 5
          6. JaRod Tobler (H-P Center) 6
          7. Jeff Henderson (Hinds CC) nr
          8. Reindell Cole (CS Northridge) 7
          9. Jeremy Hicks (LSU) nr
          10. Randall Flimmons (unat) nr
          I'll bet with that bunch of shitty vaulters, 8' wins it.
          Dang, I bet I can beat ALL of them . . . seriously!

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          • #6
            Re: 2009 USATF: mPV

            Originally posted by Marlow
            Originally posted by Cooter Brown
            Originally posted by bhall
            1. Dwight Phillips (Nike) 4
            2. Brian Johnson (Nike) 2
            3. Miguel Pate (Nike) 1
            4. Trevell Quinley (Nike) 3
            5. Matt Turner (unat) 5
            6. JaRod Tobler (H-P Center) 6
            7. Jeff Henderson (Hinds CC) nr
            8. Reindell Cole (CS Northridge) 7
            9. Jeremy Hicks (LSU) nr
            10. Randall Flimmons (unat) nr
            I'll bet with that bunch of shitty vaulters, 8' wins it.
            Dang, I bet I can beat ALL of them . . . seriously!
            In two weeks these guys would probably be vaulting 4.25m/14 feet, on average (and would not be surprised if some of them got up to 5.00m/16ft). They have speed and athletic ability (remember, we lose these guys to the linebacking crew).

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            • #7
              I think this could be the first time in a long time that having an A standard is a potential issue for the US Men's Pole Vault.

              Here are the athletes with an A:

              Brad Walker unattached / Nike 5.90 - Automatic bid to World's, so 3 more spots open

              Derek Miles unattached / Nike 5.85 - Should easily make the team

              Jeremy Scott unattached 5.82 - 5.82 from his indoor training facility. Only has an outdoor lifetime best of 5.65.

              Jacob Pauli unattached / Nike 5.80 - has 6 NHs, a 5.30 and a 5.50 this year, seems like a long shot to make the team.

              Jason Colwick Rice University 5.72 - has been on fire this year and has a very real chance at making the team, but NHs at his school's conference meets show a touch of inconsistency.

              Timothy Mack unattached 5.70 - Just jumped 5.70 at San Diego State, but before that was consistently in the 5.40 zone all year. In the past 2 years, with the exception of Pre last year, he was normally in the 5.40-5.55 range when competing outside of Southern California.

              Tommy Skipper - Has a 5.70 from Millrose last year, but has struggled to make bars in meets and has not made a height this year.

              Mark Hollis - Has a 5.75 from last spring. He was on fire early in the season last year, but peaked too early and didn't perform when it counted. This year he got off to a slower start, but has been jumping well in Europe with a 5.52 and 5.65 under his belt.

              Toby Stevenson - Has a 5.70 from last year's PV Summit, but it's been all downhill since then. Did jump 5.60 in San Diego recently.


              I don't think anyone else has an A standard.

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              • #8
                Glad to see all the up and comers in the field. If this trend keeps up, in a few years, we may not have 3 with an A qualifier.

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                • #9
                  I haven't been paying really close attention lately...do the WC's still let us enter one with just a "B" standard if they place high enough at this meet (recall that ABBA discussion from 2007)?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cooter Brown
                    Glad to see all the up and comers in the field. If this trend keeps up, in a few years, we may not have 3 with an A qualifier.
                    But at least the veterans in this event age well
                    Speaking of which, has Jeff Hartwig officially retired?
                    Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Powell
                      Speaking of which, has Jeff Hartwig officially retired?
                      I suspect so. He's almost 42 years old and he hasn't competed all year.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by skyin' brian
                        I haven't been paying really close attention lately...do the WC's still let us enter one with just a "B" standard if they place high enough at this meet (recall that ABBA discussion from 2007)?
                        A
                        AA
                        AAA
                        B
                        AB
                        AAB

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Powell
                          Originally posted by Cooter Brown
                          Glad to see all the up and comers in the field. If this trend keeps up, in a few years, we may not have 3 with an A qualifier.
                          But at least the veterans in this event age well
                          Speaking of which, has Jeff Hartwig officially retired?
                          T&FN, last September: <<Former vault AR holder Jeff Hartwig announced that his final meet will be September 24 in Aachen, Germany—one day before his 41st birthday.>>

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gh
                            Originally posted by skyin' brian
                            I haven't been paying really close attention lately...do the WC's still let us enter one with just a "B" standard if they place high enough at this meet (recall that ABBA discussion from 2007)?
                            A
                            AA
                            AAA
                            B
                            AB
                            AAB
                            Is this affected at all by having a fourth entry; e.g., can it be XAAB, where X is the auto-entry?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gh
                              Originally posted by skyin' brian
                              I haven't been paying really close attention lately...do the WC's still let us enter one with just a "B" standard if they place high enough at this meet (recall that ABBA discussion from 2007)?
                              A
                              AA
                              AAA
                              B
                              AB
                              AAB
                              What is USATF's preference? I was trying to figure it out and got lost? For example, if 1st and 2nd have As, 3rd has a B, and 4th has an A, do they take 1, 2, 3, or would they take 1, 2, 4?

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