Asafa Powell - how many sub-10's?

[Sportsfanx1]

He's at 49 sub 10 secs time. He's going to go beyond 53 this season, then he'll be the top of the list.

Today's would've been 50 sub-10 races if he had done it.

[dal4018]

Re: Asafa Powell - how many sub-10's?

Is anyone else here keeping track of Asafa's sub 10 runs?

I ask because I do, and my tally has him at 49.

It is mentioned today in both of our local papers that he is going for #51 today in Oslo. So, either they are wrong, or I am. (They mention Maurice Greene's 53, which I know is accurate although Wikipedia had it incorrect for a few years on the pages for both athletes.) If I'm wrong, I'd be interested in finding out which sub-10 I missed.

Can anyone assist?

That amount was mentioned at the GP 100M FINAL

[pela2]

<stats> Total = 53.

pela2, I can understand you not counting the run with the faulty wind gauge, as much as I can understand them counting it (lack of proof that it was in fact an illegal run).

Can you expound on the "rolling start" you mentioned? I'm lost with that one.

I have the "rolling start" performances on my legal webpage, but in a different table. Often the performances here are false starts but no call back was done from the starter for some reason. For some performances even some reaction times was recorded <0.100 which should have caused a call back, but not in some of these cases.

So my 51 could maybe be a 52 for Greene ....

[toyracer]

Here's the IAAF Toplist.

9.79 0.1 Maurice Greene 1r3 Athína 16/06/1999

9.80 0.2 Maurice Greene 1 Sevilla 22/08/1999
9.82 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1 Edmonton 05/08/2001
9.85 0.8 Maurice Greene 1 Roma 07/07/1999
9.86 0.2 Maurice Greene 1 Athína 03/08/1997
9.86 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1r1 Berlin 01/09/2000
9.87 0.6 Maurice Greene 1 Stockholm 30/07/1999
9.87 -0.3 Maurice Greene 1 Sydney 23/09/2000
9.87 0.6 Maurice Greene 3 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 22/08/2004
9.88 Maurice Greene 1qf2 Edmonton 04/08/2001
9.89 0.9 Maurice Greene 1r1 Roma 12/07/2002

9.90 0.2 Maurice Greene 1 Indianapolis, IN 13/06/1997
9.90 1.0 Maurice Greene 1 Lausanne 02/07/1997
9.90 1.3 Maurice Greene 2qf1 Athína 02/08/1997
9.90 0.5 Maurice Greene 1sf2 Athína 03/08/1997
9.90 0.3 Maurice Greene 1 Stockholm 05/08/1998
9.90 0.3 Maurice Greene 1h4 Eugene, OR 21/06/2001
9.90 1.1 Maurice Greene 1r1 Lausanne 04/07/2001
9.91 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1qf5 Sevilla 21/08/1999
9.91 -0.4 Maurice Greene 1 Osaka 13/05/2000
9.91 -0.3 Maurice Greene 1 Athína 11/06/2001
9.91 0.0 Maurice Greene 1 Sacramento, CA 11/07/2004
9.92 0.2 Maurice Greene 2 Bruxelles 22/08/1997
9.92 -0.3 Maurice Greene 1r1 Lausanne 25/08/1998
9.93 0.4 Maurice Greene 2r1 Lausanne 02/07/1999
9.93 0.3 Maurice Greene 1h4 Sacramento, CA 14/07/2000
9.93 1.8 Maurice Greene 2 Eugene, OR 19/06/2004
9.93 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1qf5 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 21/08/2004
9.94 -0.3 Maurice Greene 1 Bruxelles 28/08/1998
9.94 0.1 Maurice Greene 1r1 Berlin 01/09/1998
9.94 -1.0 Maurice Greene 1 Zürich 11/08/2000
9.94 1.4 Maurice Greene 1 Carson, CA 01/06/2003
9.94 -0.5 Maurice Greene 2r1 Zürich 06/08/2004
9.96 1.5 Maurice Greene 1h1 Indianapolis, IN 12/06/1997
9.96 0.6 Maurice Greene 1sf1 New Orleans, LA 19/06/1998
9.96 0.2 Maurice Greene 2 Oslo 09/07/1998
9.96 -1.0 Maurice Greene 1 Uniondale, NY 21/07/1998
9.96 -0.7 Maurice Greene 1sf1 Sevilla 22/08/1999
9.96 -0.1 Maurice Greene 1 Osaka 12/05/2001
9.96 -0.4 Maurice Greene 1 Paris Saint-Denis 06/07/2001
9.97 -0.6 Maurice Greene 1r1 London 07/08/1999
9.97 0.7 Maurice Greene 1r1 Roma 30/06/2000
9.97 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1r1 Athína 10/06/2002
9.97 0.1 Maurice Greene 1 Monaco 19/07/2002
9.97 -0.3 Maurice Greene 2 London (CP) 30/07/2004
9.97 0.2 Maurice Greene 3sf2 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 22/08/2004
9.98 -0.8 Maurice Greene 1r1 London 22/07/2001
9.98 -0.2 Maurice Greene 1h2 London (CP) 30/07/2004
9.99 -0.7 Maurice Greene 2 Zürich 13/08/1997
9.99 -0.5 Maurice Greene 1 Sydney 28/02/1998
9.99 -0.7 Maurice Greene 1 Zürich 11/08/1999
9.99 0.7 Maurice Greene 1sf2 Palo Alto, CA 21/06/2002
9.99 0.4 Maurice Greene 1 Paris Saint-Denis 05/07/2002

9.70 to 9.79 = 1
9.80 to 9.89 = 10
9.90 to 9.99 = 42
Total = 53.

pela2, I can understand you not counting the run with the faulty wind gauge, as much as I can understand them counting it (lack of proof that it was in fact an illegal run).

Can you expound on the "rolling start" you mentioned? I'm lost with that one.

[pela2]

Most legal sub-10's (before & after Oslo)

Maurice Greene 51
Asafa Powell 49
Ato Boldon 28
Frank Fredericks 27
Carl Lewis 15
Donovan Bailey 15

Can you explain the discrepancy with the IAAF Toplist, which has 53 sub-10's for Maurice Greene?

They have for some reason included Greene's 9.88 from Edmonton WC 2001 with a faulty wind gauge and the 9.94 from 1998 in Berlin which is seen as a "rolling-start". The rolling-start should maybe been included....

[toyracer]

Most legal sub-10's (before & after Oslo)

Maurice Greene 51
Asafa Powell 49
Ato Boldon 28
Frank Fredericks 27
Carl Lewis 15
Donovan Bailey 15

Can you explain the discrepancy with the IAAF Toplist, which has 53 sub-10's for Maurice Greene?

[einnod23]

There was NO POWER from Asafa in Oslo!

[pela2]

Most legal sub-10's (before & after Oslo)

Maurice Greene 51
Asafa Powell 49
Ato Boldon 28
Frank Fredericks 27
Carl Lewis 15
Donovan Bailey 15

[IFK_Vaxjo]

Should be another one today. Great weather with 20 degrees or more and nice tailwinds (3.0 in the B-race but legal in all other events so far).

Edit: take that back...apparently raining hard right now (guess it's thunder and following rainshowers).

[mcgato]

I checked pela's list and he has Asafa with 49 sub 10 on his main list, and there is a 9.9 manual time on his manual time list. That manual one may be the difference.

[toyracer]

Thanks guys. I just wanted to make sure I had not missed a legal sub-10 over the years (he has 2 wind aided by my count, both in Eugene).

On Saturday someone updated Asafa's page on Wikipedia and changed his total to 49. Someone else then updated the page hours later and changed it to 50. I am wondering is that is the source of the error, although a journalist should never rely on Wikipedia for anything.

The same problem was happening in the case of Maurice Greene for years. His total was at 51 on his Wikipedia page for quite a while. Pela's site has him at 51. The list on the IAAF website shows Greene with 53 wind legal runs. One of these days I'll get around to comparing Pela's list with that of the IAAF to see what was left off, but the IAAF list is the official one that counts.

IAAF website has Asafa at 48, with the 9.97 on 27/06/09 not listed.

[EPelle]

Yes, and for those less inclined to count (or who have less time, that is):

http://www.geocities.com/sprintingelite/statistics.html

Add the six times he ran faster than listed since 2008-09-02 and that should equal the same tally you have (49).

[Powell]

Pela's site should be as good as any source out there.

[toyracer]

Is anyone else here keeping track of Asafa's sub 10 runs?

I ask because I do, and my tally has him at 49.

It is mentioned today in both of our local papers that he is going for #51 today in Oslo. So, either they are wrong, or I am. (They mention Maurice Greene's 53, which I know is accurate although Wikipedia had it incorrect for a few years on the pages for both athletes.) If I'm wrong, I'd be interested in finding out which sub-10 I missed.

Can anyone assist?