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  • #46
    Originally posted by 3a
    Originally posted by LopenUupunut
    You won't. I, on the other hand, am currently watching a 3+ hour live broadcast on TV.
    What channel Lopen? :lol:
    Urheilukanava, only available in Finland.

    Some notes:

    - The m1500 medalists came home in second, third and fourth lane respectively...

    - France should have been disqualified in the w4x100 heat. They weren't, and probably won't be, but they should have been. Their anchor started moving way too early, had to stop, didn't in my view manage that in time and stood still (beyond the exchange line) for more than a second before getting the baton! The world being as unfair as it is, they'll probably get the gold...

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    • #47
      Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )

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      • #48
        Originally posted by xygo
        Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )
        It's shocking how Latvians, many of them, have been breaking their PBs left and right... not.

        One more note I forgot: the second (fouled) jump of the French long jumper Kessely had the strange approach I've ever seen. She never touched track within a meter of the takeoff board :shock:

        By the way, contrary to my prediction, the French relay team has now been disqualified. As a result the women's 4x100 final has been significantly delayed with all the protests and counterprotests being examined.

        Edit: That was too much to hope for, especially given the success rate of my predictions lately :wink: France has been reinstated for no apparent reason. The final has been rescheduled for 19:00 (17:00 British time)

        New edit an hour later: The final has been re-rescheduled for 19:25, but France is still in.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by LopenUupunut
          Originally posted by xygo
          Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )
          It's shocking how Latvians, many of them, have been breaking their PBs left and right... not
          Looks like it's a good day for Latvia. Madara Palameika has just thrown 64.51 in the last round of the women's javelin to take gold. Her PB before this championship was 57.98m set two years ago :shock: It adds more than 6.5m to her PB and almost 4.5m to the Latvian record.

          Edited to add: Grabuste takes the heptathlon victory with 6396, that's 346 points better than her previous PB. :shock:

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Jon
            Originally posted by LopenUupunut
            Originally posted by xygo
            Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )
            It's shocking how Latvians, many of them, have been breaking their PBs left and right... not
            Looks like it's a good day for Latvia. Madara Palameika has just thrown 64.51 in the last round of the women's javelin to take gold. Her PB before this championship was 57.98m set two years ago :shock: It adds more than 6.5m to her PB and almost 4.5m to the Latvian record.

            Edited to add: Grabuste takes the heptathlon victory with 6396, that's 346 points better than her previous PB. :shock:
            The Javelin improvement is ludicrous and simply can't be right. It is impossible to improve by 6 metres in one competition. I'm sure she has a better previous PB. Surely?

            Grabust was quite promising in Beijing. I am surprised she's kicked on so much though, Kudos to her and the surrounding team.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by LopenUupunut
              Originally posted by xygo
              Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )
              It's shocking how Latvians, many of them, have been breaking their PBs left and right... not.

              .
              Lopen, why the "not". Why are you not surprised by vast improvements? Has there been some sort of national overhaul I haven't heard about?

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              • #52
                Surprise of the week for me is the British Women winning the 4x1. 43.8 isn't a bad time and with a quartet of runners who are all very young and green. I didn't expect them to medal, let alone gold.

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                • #53
                  The Javelin improvement is ludicrous and simply can't be right. It is impossible to improve by 6 metres in one competition. I'm sure she has a better previous PB. Surely?
                  It's not totally impossible. It is, for example, about the same as Christina Obergföll's improvement during the WC in Helsinki. If there's the right wind, it can happen in Javelin throwing. And there was a lot of wind, as one can see at the wind mark's in the ladies long jump competition.

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                  • #54
                    Another big improver gold-medal winner in the men's TJ. Daniele Greco (former PBs were 16.64/16.83i) leapt a last-round 17.20m (1.8m/s) to take the gold medal :shock:

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                    • #55
                      Also impressive the Italian Greco 17,20m., over 50cm improvement at last jump!

                      Men's pole vault had also some surprises,as two hot favourites Michalski and Kudlicka didnot medal, and an inspiring Greek Dimitris Patsoukakis set new standards for himself improving from 5,41m. to 5,55m. first time clearances all 5,40m. ,5, 50m. , 5,55m.! Great performace for the greek guy!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by 3a
                        Originally posted by LopenUupunut
                        Originally posted by xygo
                        Grabuste, the heptathlete from Latvia has broken almost all her PBs and she is going to have a highly world-class score over 6350p. ( previous best something under 6100p. )
                        It's shocking how Latvians, many of them, have been breaking their PBs left and right... not..
                        Lopen, why the "not". Why are you not surprised by vast improvements? Has there been some sort of national overhaul I haven't heard about?
                        I am surprised but not shocked. I've repeatedly argued that athletes from Estonia and Latvia, particularly sprinters and jumpers, often have weaker PBs than they "should" and are quite likely to put matters right in that respect come major meet time, for the following reasons:

                        1) The two countries aren't all that rich and don't usually put the money they do have to gracing the city stadium with the latest Mondo. Therefore, only the strongest domestic meets feature tracks as fast as those regular elsewhere.

                        2) The two countries' weather and northern location, especially in the case of Estonia, keeps the domestic season relatively short and means not all comps get the warm weather sprinters and jumpers would like, further decreasing the number of good opportunities. (This also, marginally, increases the number of injuries.)

                        3) When you have so few real opportunities to begin with, having as often happens many of them spoiled by headwinds or overly strong tailwinds leaves you with even less.

                        4) The two countries' small population and scarcity of international meets in them means that in most events, and certainly the sprints and jumps, the top athletes rarely get real opponents. It really does help if somebody's pushing you.

                        5) The weak PBs resulting play a large part in preventing athletes from getting into big foreign meets that could provide better conditions.

                        Even together, these aren't huge factors but can still play a significant part - especially with improving athletes that have only been anywhere near their current form for a short time and haven't had many opportunities to get all those little details right. U23 athletes are supposed to be improving.

                        Additionally, there are several specific reasons why the PBs haven't been particularly shocking:

                        1) Many non-Latvian athletes have produced PBs here. After all, the weather's been mostly okay, and the athletes still young and improving. Plus this is, after all, the meet most have been peaking for.

                        2) It helps if you don't have to travel much to the major meet. Major meets always have lots of PBs - they'd have even more without jetlag, being tired of travelling, having to deal with strange foreign food, etc. Kaunas, for the Latvians, is almost home.

                        3) To pick a specific athlete, Janis Leitis, who popped a big last-round PB in men's long jump to steal a surprise win, is very new to his event and hadn't really been tested in it yet.

                        Mind you, few or none of these explanations apply to the javelin. Accordingly, I am shocked about the 64.51. :shock: But I was shocked about 70.03, too.

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                        • #57
                          Melanie Bauschke wins the LJ with 6.83 (-0.3), even more impressive after getting silver in the HJ (1.89 in Kaunas, PB 1.90) on Saturday. She turned 21 this week, should be interesting to see which event she choses - if she does and whether she has to.

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                          • #58
                            At this point, she's clearly a better long jumper. I suppose after her 6.83 she will be selected for the WCh in that event, too, while in the HJ she's nowhere near qualifying, so I think the choice is clear. Still, a very impressive double.
                            Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                            • #59
                              Daniele Greco TJ (M) winner

                              Also fast for jumper. 100M pr listed at 10.38. Dob 1-3-89, 20+ years old at u23 championships.

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                              • #60
                                http://www.sportresult.com/sports/la/fr ... und0130061

                                1500 final tactically slow but I would have liked to have seen the final 50 meters anyway:
                                1 TUKHTACHEV, Ivan RUS 3:51.19
                                2 BREWER, James GBR 3:51.33
                                3 HOLUSA, Jakub CZE 3:51.46
                                4 RODRÍGUEZ, Álvaro ESP 3:51.62
                                5 STEVENSON, Ricky GBR 3:51.82
                                6 KOWAL, Yoann FRA 3:51.98
                                7 SCAPINI, Mario ITA 3:52.12
                                8 RUELL, Kim BEL 3:52.55
                                9 BELHARBAZI, Otmane FRA 3:52.59
                                10 FORRESTER, David GBR 3:52.94

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