Ohuruogu injured, will miss London GP

[Stephen]

Ohuruogu was beaten badly in Oslo and then was being caught in the last 50m of the nationals. It would do no good for her rep to be beaten badly again at the London GP. So, I wouldn't be surprisd if she doesn't have a strain at all and is instead knuckling down to some hard work. Rather she miss the UK's big sell and do well in Berlin then get a beating on home turf.

Re Sanders, I've not seen the race but I didn't like the IAAF description whereby she was 5th at 300m then came through strongly. I hope she isn't going off too slowly again. She won by just 7/100ths so she cut this win fine. It would be fantastic if she could set a 50+ time in London, although with the UK weather at the moment I'm more interested in placings. Rain rain go away.

Edited to add: have just watched the race, and Nicola positively jogged to 200m! You could see an obvious change in tempo at the 200m mark. She needs to start off quicker!! I was impressed with Phyhyda, who blasted out of the blocks and hung on well.

[John G]

I may be being totally unfair on the guy but has any coach ever had as many injury prone athletes as Tony Hadley - Redmond, Ladejo, Benjamin, Sanders, Oyepitan, Mackie? I think I saw that his junior Jordan McGrath pulled a hammy a few weeks back.

There's Tony Lester (who coaches Benjamin, Sanders and Oyepitan) and there's Tony Hadley (who coaches Jordan McGrath and used to coach Redmond & Ladejo). You're lumping the two together to form one big bad coach!

A fair few of Lester's athletes get injured, but he does also have a major positive influence on them too, and transforms them into world class sprinters.

What a Div I am! Sorry Tony ......and Tony.

[gh]

One thing you have to give credit to Ohu and/or her coach for, and that's knowing when to peak:

2003 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2004 seasonal best--Olympic Games
2005 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2006 seasonal best--Commonwealth Games
2007 seasonal best--World Championships
2008 seasonal best--Olympic Games

Of course, if you hardly ever race the odds are higher of getting a seasonal best in any given meet.

I doubt that 2005 Euro Juniors call - wasn't she born in 1984?

As an aside, with her single peak approach would she even make a US championship team?

Sorry, Euro U-23 Champs.

Bottom line is, she doesn't need to worry about a U.S. system.

[Daisy]

If it 'counts' that SR did not win the 2007 400 because she was not there (since she was apparently adversely affected by disease, not fully understood in its racing implications), then the Big O gets a L in the 2009 WCs. Makes about the same sense.

Well she hasn't lost it yet, right? Are you assuming she will be a no show?

SR fans repeatedly mention the fact that Ohuruogu has only beaten her once and that SR's performances are superior (all true). Sometimes their frustration comes across as an attempt to downgrade Ohuruogu 2007 win as well as her 2008 win. Obviously SR has a disease which can effect her performance in championship racing but the absence of a favourite should not be a reason to wonder what could have been. Or worse, cheapen an athletes win. I doubt SR fans intend to cheapen the 2007 win but sometimes it comes across that way on these threads.

[mojo]

I don't imagine you have ever been on a REAL relay Mr. hjumpman so have no clue as to how great it can feel to be part of a team.
And don't tell me you have played soccer/football so what teamwork is all about. :x

Actually, I was on every school 4x100m relay team up to the age of 18yo. Loved running them! And yes, I was on the school football and rugby first teams until I was 18yo!

Guess I have a little more experience at team sports than you, eh mojo?

Oh let's make this thread aboot us!

I played field hockey right up to the highest level at University.9 years in total.Left wing thank you very much. Still LW come to think of it.
So I played a team sport up until age 21. :lol:

I also ran both 4x100 and 4x400m for my school and province.

So NO you do not have more experience than I Mr. hj.

Now back to the topic at hand-at least you agree that if you do run the damn thing you run it hard. Otherwise do a TC. :?

[marknhj]

I'm with her coach. For the life of me I can't understand the obsession with relays, ...

really? then why does she bother to run them and f**k it up for the GB team? that's what irks people. i'm sure she's a lovely girl and all, but her relay running is just pathetically bad.

Yes, really, in the broad sense. However, I agree with you and the other posters. If she's going to run them she should put in a maximal effort.

[cacique]

I'm with her coach. For the life of me I can't understand the obsession with relays, ...

really? then why does she bother to run them and f**k it up for the GB team? that's what irks people. i'm sure she's a lovely girl and all, but her relay running is just pathetically bad. y'all remember her jogging to the finish line NOT on the inside lane (was it osaka or beijing?) in the semis and almost losing the qualifying spot. it's just atrocious how good she is in the individual event contrasted to her stupid relay performance.

[of course, if she didn't run the relays, i'm sure the brits would pillory her as well... they must have something to carp about or ...]

[AS]

One thing you have to give credit to Ohu and/or her coach for, and that's knowing when to peak:

2003 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2004 seasonal best--Olympic Games
2005 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2006 seasonal best--Commonwealth Games
2007 seasonal best--World Championships
2008 seasonal best--Olympic Games

Of course, if you hardly ever race the odds are higher of getting a seasonal best in any given meet.

I doubt that 2005 Euro Juniors call - wasn't she born in 1984?

As an aside, with her single peak approach would she even make a US championship team?

[gh]

One thing you have to give credit to Ohu and/or her coach for, and that's knowing when to peak:

2003 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2004 seasonal best--Olympic Games
2005 seasonal best--European Junior Champs
2006 seasonal best--Commonwealth Games
2007 seasonal best--World Championships
2008 seasonal best--Olympic Games

[marknhj]

I don't imagine you have ever been on a REAL relay Mr. hjumpman so have no clue as to how great it can feel to be part of a team.
And don't tell me you have played soccer/football so what teamwork is all about. :x

Actually, I was on every school 4x100m relay team up to the age of 18yo. Loved running them! And yes, I was on the school football and rugby first teams until I was 18yo!

Guess I have a little more experience at team sports than you, eh mojo?

[mojo]

Poor relay attitude and performances, only running well in big meets and missing those tests (one okay, two maybe, three-WTF?).....

Hey Canadian athletes certainly look hale and hearty next to their British cousins-must be OUR weather!

How many reigning World and Olympic Champions do you have?

I'm with her coach. For the life of me I can't understand the obsession with relays, I regard them as a fun finale to the proper competition. I find it ridiculous that guys who may rank well down in their individual events get funding to be on a relay team. Spend it on developing athletes in individual events...

I give her dues-her credentials are outstanding. I just mentioned that for all that she just isn't one of my fav athletes. It certainly doesn't matter a whit. :lol: :lol:

Relays are important in that it is a challenge and a test of the depth of athletes a particular country has. It is fascinating and fun to see the composition of teams and the strategy used for assigning legs people will run.


I don't imagine you have ever been on a REAL relay Mr. hjumpman so have no clue as to how great it can feel to be part of a team.

And don't tell me you have played soccer/football so what teamwork is all about. :x

[justblaze1011]

Re: Ohuruogu injured, will miss London GP

She has a bad hammy (picked up in training) and will miss London, but hopes to be okay for the worlds.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8156545.stm

If she's not 100% fit, I don't see her defending her world title. I think this one is (finally) going to Sanya....

FWIW...

Christine has only beaten Sanya once.

Granted, it was the Olympics.

But still only once.

And not to take anything away from the defending Olympic and World Champion because the Big O earned it, but....even in the Olympics I believe the consensus is that Sanya had more to do with that lost than Christine did.

Sanya doesnt need Ohurogo to miss the race in order to win.

The ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD who can beat Sanya, is Sanya.

I'm just saying.

I hope Christine gets better. I hate injuries and illness.

Really??? Is that right??? Are we talking about Golden League or championships???

I'm just saying...

[26mi235]

If it 'counts' that SR did not win the 2007 400 because she was not there (since she was apparently adversely affected by disease, not fully understood in its racing implications), then the Big O gets a L in the 2009 WCs. Makes about the same sense.

[Daisy]

Re: Ohuruogu injured, will miss London GP

Christine has only beaten Sanya once.

Granted, it was the Olympics.

But still only once.

True but Richard's tried to be to be at the Worlds in 2007.

The ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD who can beat Sanya, is Sanya.

I'm just saying.

Again true but unfortunately she seems to do this fairly regularly. Maybe this will be her year, everything looks good, so far.

[marknhj]

Poor relay attitude and performances, only running well in big meets and missing those tests (one okay, two maybe, three-WTF?).....

Hey Canadian athletes certainly look hale and hearty next to their British cousins-must be OUR weather!

How many reigning World and Olympic Champions do you have?

I'm with her coach. For the life of me I can't understand the obsession with relays, I regard them as a fun finale to the proper competition. I find it ridiculous that guys who may rank well down in their individual events get funding to be on a relay team. Spend it on developing athletes in individual events...