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  • NCAA champ Jonathan Borlee out of Worlds

    Stress fracture in right foot, will have to carry cast for 6 weeks, see the picture http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Sportwereld/Ar ... =G9T2CQ8B6

    The move of the Borlees to Florida is now being widely critised in the Belgian press, who are disappointed with losing their best medal hope (or hopes with relay). The brothers supposedly ran 13 races from march till june.

    I don't know how they were taken care off in Florida, but I guess it's safe to say that running that many races in that time of the year was a stress that they didn't have to deal with in previous years.

  • #2
    Yea, it is possible that they are simply too good for the NCAA and shouldn't have made the move.

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    • #3
      I tried to translate everything... Please excuse me if i made some errors in the proces..


      Jonathan Borlee has a stress fracture in his right foot and is going to miss the WC... A disaster for the Belgium recordholder and star of the 1600 relay team. But
      it is their own fault! Suddenly all hope has disappeared for Belgiums only
      WC medal. Was it all worth going to Florida?

      The Borlees are starting their season earlier than usual. The main question is:
      can they handle it both physically and mentally? This was already questioned when
      they made the announcement to leave Belgium for Florida State University.
      They were being lured with a nice scholarship: $25.000 for each minus the costs of their tickets. In exchange they had to defend Florida State University. Before they left Belgium they were being told that they had to do ~ 10 races. Eventually ~ 10 races became 13 races. A fierce program for the 21 year old twins who
      stated that they were both injury prone. But their father dismissed it and told people not to worry to much. "If there is going to be any risk of injury they will not race". But that barely was the case. The Borlees were doing great actually.
      Jonathan improved the Belgium 400 meter record to 44.78, and that was also the winning time of the NCAA Championships. They also won the 1600 relay. Because the brothers finished 5th during the relay finals in Beijing and both advanced to the semi finals, they saw an oppurtunity to make it to the finals next month in Berlin. Recently their father stated that if they are going back to the States, he would like them to get the oppurtunity to pick the races out them selves. Hoping that it would pay off in a pro contract: Making money on the circuit and racing against the big guns. At this point they are still amateurs and Florida State recently forced them to temporarily suspend their sponsorcontracts.

      The day before yesterday Jonathan was being told that he has a stress fracture in his foot. His voetwortelbeentje (i don't know the word) in his right foot is broken. Six weeks he has to be in plaster. The calling off is truly a disaster for the 1600 relay team, who expected to finish 5th at the worst. And they were aiming for the Belgium record of 2.58.20. But their goals remains the same eventough they have to make some adjustments now. Belgium is facing other troubles at the moment. Currently the womens 400 relay isn't laying down the times need to be competitive with their opponents.. A worst case scenario that could mean that not one belgium team would advance to the finals...

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      • #4
        Elite athletes coming to the US on college scholarships is no longer a good idea. That is unless you come from a region with no funding in which case you've no choice.

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        • #5
          Elite athletes?
          Why do you think they left Belgium?

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          • #6
            Yeah, that collegiate system does nothing but screw up quartermilers. Just ask Lee Evans, Larry James, Michael Johnson, Jeremy Wariner.....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kamikaze7
              Elite athletes coming to the US on college scholarships is no longer a good idea.
              I'd hardly say FSU overworked them! Even with this injury, I bet there are few regrets about coming to an American college and training.

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              • #8
                A thought regards "over-racing": so for a couple of months Borlée ran a hard quarter (or two, with the relay) on a Saturday. If he had been back home safe in Belgium, what would he have done on Saturday? Probably run (making this up, but you get the drift) 10 hard quarters, 20 hard 200s, etc., etc.

                Which is harder on him?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gh
                  Yeah, that collegiate system does nothing but screw up quartermilers. Just ask Lee Evans, Larry James, Michael Johnson, Jeremy Wariner.....
                  Steve Lewis, Quincy Watts, Danny Everett.....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gh
                    A thought regards "over-racing": so for a couple of months Borlée ran a hard quarter (or two, with the relay) on a Saturday. If he had been back home safe in Belgium, what would he have done on Saturday? Probably run (making this up, but you get the drift) 10 hard quarters, 20 hard 200s, etc., etc.

                    Which is harder on him?
                    He wouldn't be running even close to those volumes in training or doing such stupid things. 20x200m? Christ... Not to mention, the speeds in those are still lower than would be reached in a race.

                    Plus, when you run a race, it isn't just 1x400m or 2x400m. You have the warm-up, the build-ups you do before the race, the block starts, etc. And then you likely are running on a Mondo surface or some other extremely hard surface, which is going to cause even more stress onto the body.

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                    • #11
                      The load FSU gave the Borlee's was not a difficult one.

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                      • #12
                        Not much in sympathy with the silly point about those that go through the Collegiate boiler house and yet become world beaters. Sure there is American exceptions but how many whilst they were at College, in what events

                        Has always happened to Brit athletes with very few exceptions. I said to those AW (Thats Athletics W eekly to you ) ''so called ''experts that the Brits who did a college season in America would be required to run far too much and be knackered by end of June. This over competing tends to affect 400,800 and 1500 particularly.

                        This fact does not concern the College Athletics authorities in America,; as far as they are concerned you can ruin every chance you may have in the majors in August with various muscle injuries etc. so long as youare ready the following year to get for the points for your University

                        Thats what happens when you take the money. Silly Borlee boys..Did they not know what American College athletetics entails, beating your yourself up for the greater glory of the College/University

                        . Never mind Borlee boys, finish over there and then you can go really well in Europe, in a couple of years time.

                        Some of our Brits fans were predicting that Lee Emanuel would do great things; did not take long when he came back home for those fans to realise his best was left in the States.
                        Bingham the American mercenary running for GB was and still is being touted as a significant GB man for Berli,. Silly boys; !! I said he had run since his fine indoor season continuously since Feb/March, and would be knackered by late July. So far I am spot on.!!

                        Looking for ward to seeing the fate of that young American, Galen Rupp, in Berlin after a rather busy NCAA season

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by infinityemmo
                          His voetwortelbeentje (i don't know the word) in his right foot is broken.
                          Sounds serious.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gh
                            Yeah, that collegiate system does nothing but screw up quartermilers. Just ask Lee Evans, Larry James, Michael Johnson, Jeremy Wariner.....
                            Thats just an emotional reaction. Furthermore its moot because none of those runners are foreign runners

                            And Of course not all athletes are the same. And not all college coaches are the same.
                            One of the reasons for the sudden rise in Jamaican runners is that most of them are no longer interested in coming stateside.
                            I personally would not advise any athlete to come into the US collegiate system unless they had no other choice.
                            Over racing is just one factor , other factors that lead athletes not to fulfill their potential are :

                            1. Language barrier
                            2. Inability to adapt to the culture
                            3a. Visa issues can distract an athlete
                            3b. Academics (foreign students dont have the option of flunking because their Visa becomes invalid in many cases ending their running career)
                            4. Difficulty for some to juggle classes and training and travel
                            5. Difficulty of peaking 3 times a season (NCAA, national trials and WC)


                            But most importantly, many college coaches are not interested in the long term development of a runner. They are only worried about what they can get out of them now at this very moment. Just ask Henry Rono. The difference is that a foreign runner does not have the option of leaving school lest his Visa becomes invalid. And transferring to another school is not that easy for foreigners either again due to Visa complications. A coach who knows that can really misuse a runner.
                            And I am not saying this happened to Borlee. But it does happen.
                            Again not all coaches are the same.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dutra
                              The load FSU gave the Borlee's was not a difficult one.
                              Yeah, the 14 "races" cited break out this way.

                              March 7
                              indoor relay leg
                              (1-week break)
                              March 14
                              indoor relay leg
                              (4-week break)
                              April 11
                              relay leg
                              (2-week break)
                              April 24/25
                              relay leg in a heat, relay leg in final
                              (2-week break)
                              May 9
                              wins a 45.34 race
                              (3-week break)
                              May 29/30
                              45.84 heat, 45.54 final for 4th relay leg
                              (2-week break)
                              June 10
                              45.50 heat

                              June 11
                              relay leg

                              June 12
                              45.35 semifinal

                              June 13
                              44.78 win, relay leg

                              So over a 15-week span, only once running two weekends in a row, he ran three (3!) 400 finals. If that's too much of a load.....

                              edited because (horrors!) Tilastopaja (where pappa probably got his 13-race count) doesn't list the NCAA indoor 4x4

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