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  • Originally posted by justblaze1011
    Uh hold on....Trammell was a victim of politics, thats why he never ran after coahces in fact told him that he would.
    I said maybe because I really didn't know. I was just speculating. If that were the case as you say it, I'm not the one to deny that....and sadly...I'm not shocked politics got yet another one...

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    • Originally posted by track_expert
      Bolt cannot be starter either, so that leaves leg 2 and 3 open for him. He can run leg 2 but that would change up the entire comfort built from the WR run
      I don't know if anyone else has already corrected you on this, since I haven't had a chance to go over the entire thread, but Bolt can not run second leg since he is still unable to run with the baton in his left hand, as was demonstrated in the London 4x100. The coaches wanted to put him on second leg in Beijing, but in practice, he had problems using his left hand, so they scratched that idea.

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      • Originally posted by jazzcyclist
        Originally posted by track_expert
        Bolt cannot be starter either, so that leaves leg 2 and 3 open for him. He can run leg 2 but that would change up the entire comfort built from the WR run
        I don't know if anyone else has already corrected you on this, since I haven't had a chance to go over the entire thread, but Bolt can not run second leg since he is still unable to run with the baton in his left hand, as was demonstrated in the London 4x100. The coaches wanted to put him on second leg in Beijing, but in practice, he had problems using his left hand, so they scratched that idea.
        Don't forget about the bs he did in 2007 as well on the second leg.

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        • Originally posted by justblaze1011
          Don't forget about the bs he did in 2007 as well on the second leg.
          That was painful to watch; both exchanges botched. If even one of them had been decent Asafa would have had a better chance of getting to the line first. Still, it did make for a memorable 5th to 2nd run.
          Regards,
          toyracer

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          • Originally posted by dakota
            Originally posted by scratchman
            He's crazy.
            Obviously a Tysonless relay is lacking. :roll:
            Not to mention, our top two 100m qualifiers werent there.
            Hes just being silly.
            I've noticed there's a clique of you in this thread who dismiss out of hand any opinion you don't like but you can't articulate why you're right about anything, just that you are. Sorry. It doesn't wash.

            All of you talk about absent 100m qualifiers yet none of you want to put Rae Edwards on the team, even though he made the team and has shown good form in Europe. None of you want to put Ivory Williams on the team either, who has shown better form than Rodgers in recent weeks and is actually the second fastest American this year. I can understand reservations about Padgett, who hasn't shown much lately, and the utter state of denial about the injuries to Gay and Dix.

            You just see and hear what you want to. You're the one being silly. And you can't explain why you think you're right either because you lack the substance to do that.

            I'd say it's a wash between Crawford, Spearmon and Patton in a 4x1. Patton is the least accomplished of the three over his career.

            Terrence Trammell should have been running 1st leg for the US relay squad for the last ten years. He keeps making teams and he keeps winning medals and he's demonstrated 10.04 and 6.45 speed in the past. That's enough. He's a championship performer. Look at what Anier Garcia, Tony Jarrett, Colin Jackson, Mark McCoy, Willie Gault, Ladji Doucoure, etc have done to help their national relay teams in the past.
            HAHAHAHA!!!!
            Have you listened to yourself lately?
            Dismiss???? :roll:
            Anybody with any sense knows that you need the best four for each positon out there. Ok, since you loooove pulling the past out your a**, lets look at Olys '92. Was Carl Lewis the fastest guy on the team? Nope. Was he even a qualifier in the 100 or 200? Nope. Nope. So why did they still put him on the 4X1...and at anchor, for that matter? Because he was the best runner for THAT position...PERIOD. And thats exactly how they intend to choose from the pool they have now. And you never explained why you brought up '88 and '04. Completely moot points.
            Youre reaching, dude. Give up. :lol:

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            • Should have put Carl Lewis on anchor in Atlanta. He beat Donovan Bailey on that track that year.

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              • Originally posted by dakota
                Should have put Carl Lewis on anchor in Atlanta. He beat Donovan Bailey on that track that year.
                Carl wasnt catching Donovan Bailey. Nobody was.

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                • Missing the point. Where the USA lost that race was Tim Harden on second leg. Obviously Burrell would have been ideal but he was injured. Maurice Greene was injured as well as was Cason and Montgomery was still a year away. Put Lewis on anchor and he gets the baton in the lead courtesy of some combination of Drummond and Marsh and Mitchell. He wouldn't have to run Bailey down.

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                  • Originally posted by dakota
                    Missing the point. Where the USA lost that race was Tim Harden on second leg. Obviously Burrell would have been ideal but he was injured. Maurice Greene was injured as well as was Cason and Montgomery was still a year away. Put Lewis on anchor and he gets the baton in the lead courtesy of some combination of Drummond and Marsh and Mitchell. He wouldn't have to run Bailey down.
                    Yeah seeing that Harden didn't know that he was running the finals until that morning, I can see why his legs wasn't there. He was told that all he was doing was running one round, that was it. Burrell was fine, he didn't run because Lewis wasn't going to run...this is what was told and is still going around when the 96 Games becomes a topic of disscussion among the athletes at meets from the era.

                    Montgomery, ran third in the rounds and the USA posted the fastest time i the world to that point. Mo wasn't hurt, he just didn't get selected as he didn't make it out of the rounds at the Trials.

                    Oh yeah, I had a teammate that was in the 1996 Games and he as well confirmed what I posted.

                    Carry on...

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                    • Originally posted by dakota
                      Missing the point. Where the USA lost that race was Tim Harden on second leg. Obviously Burrell would have been ideal but he was injured. Maurice Greene was injured as well as was Cason and Montgomery was still a year away. Put Lewis on anchor and he gets the baton in the lead courtesy of some combination of Drummond and Marsh and Mitchell. He wouldn't have to run Bailey down.
                      Huh???? What point????
                      Marsh was toast by OLYS. And besides, he's a curve runner.
                      And no point in even mentioning Greene, Cason, & Montgomery.
                      They used who they had to work with....and they got slaughtered. Lewis would've been behind Bailey (just like Mitchell) and it wouldve stayed that way.
                      Ok, sure. If Burrell had been healthy- and MJ had reconsidered, that may have slowed the bleeding. So Marsh to Burrell to MJ to Mitchell.
                      But if Mitchell and Bailey are even at the exchange....FORGET IT!

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                      • http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=3 ... 158,737172

                        Marsh ran 10.00 in the Olympic final. Hardly toast. Him, Mitchell and Drummond give US a lead. You need to understand Harden split something like 9.3 on the back stretch.

                        Burrell had tendinitis of the heel. He was part of the squad and was due to run. Mitchell and Drummond were unhappy that Lewis was trying to manoeuvre his way on to the team having not participated in relay camp.

                        Cason had run 10.07 that year but was injured. He gets mentioned because he was part of those world record squads - which is the rationale for bringing Lewis and Burrell into the equation in the first place despite them coming sixth and eighth at trials. Greene had qualified for the US 100m the year before running the same time as Marsh and Mitchell and beating Drummond, so that's why he gets mentioned as being a desirable squad member, but he had injury problems and had to wait until 1997 to have his break out year. Montgomery came seventh at trials and was in the squad but again, it wasn't until a year later he and Greene were going 9.90 - 9.92 at trials, so Montgomery wasn't probably an option to start the final at this stage. With hindsight Jeff Williams would probably have been a better pick than Tim Harden once Burrell became unavailable. He beat Harden at trials and came 5th in the Olympic 200m. Michael Johnson hurt himself at the end of the 19.32 and pulled out of the 4x4 so no way was he sprinting in a 4x1.

                        But the smart thing to do would have been to run the three sub ten guys that year - Drummond, Marsh and Mitchell - and plug Lewis in on anchor. Glenroy Gilbert isn't taking three metres out of Mitchell or Marsh on second leg the way he did Harden. Lewis wouldn't have to run Bailey down. He would be in the lead.

                        Some of you need to learn how to string a thought together and get your facts straight instead of lazily assuming you're right because of who you know and can get away without knowing how to articulate yourselves coherently.

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                        • Originally posted by dakota
                          http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=336&dat=19960802&id=-OURAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vO0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4158,737172

                          Marsh ran 10.00 in the Olympic final. Hardly toast. Him, Mitchell and Drummond give US a lead. You need to understand Harden split something like 9.3 on the back stretch.
                          Burrell had tendinitis of the heel. He was part of the squad and was due to run. Mitchell and Drummond were unhappy that Lewis was trying to manoeuvre his way on to the team having not participated in relay camp.

                          Cason had run 10.07 that year but was injured. He gets mentioned because he was part of those world record squads - which is the rationale for bringing Lewis and Burrell into the equation in the first place despite them coming sixth and eighth at trials. Greene had qualified for the US 100m the year before running the same time as Marsh and Mitchell and beating Drummond, so that's why he gets mentioned as being a desirable squad member, but he had injury problems and had to wait until 1997 to have his break out year. Montgomery came seventh at trials and was in the squad but again, it wasn't until a year later he and Greene were going 9.90 - 9.92 at trials, so Montgomery wasn't probably an option to start the final at this stage. With hindsight Jeff Williams would probably have been a better pick than Tim Harden once Burrell became unavailable. He beat Harden at trials and came 5th in the Olympic 200m. Michael Johnson hurt himself at the end of the 19.32 and pulled out of the 4x4 so no way was he sprinting in a 4x1.

                          But the smart thing to do would have been to run the three sub ten guys that year - Drummond, Marsh and Mitchell - and plug Lewis in on anchor. Glenroy Gilbert isn't taking three metres out of Mitchell or Marsh on second leg the way he did Harden. Lewis wouldn't have to run Bailey down. He would be in the lead.

                          Some of you need to learn how to string a thought together and get your facts straight instead of lazily assuming you're right because of who you know and don't have to articulate yourselves coherently.
                          ...and what difference did that make??

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                          • You're really not very well endowed in the skull department are you.

                            Drummond gave Harden the baton in the lead. Harden proceeds to run 9.3 as Gilbert takes three metres out of him. That's the race right there. Marsh and Surin were pretty even round the curve. Bailey wins going away and Mitchell has nothing to fight for.

                            Put Mitchell second. Lewis gets the baton in the lead and has a chance of holding on.

                            Capiche?

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                            • Originally posted by dakota
                              You're really not very well endowed in the skull department are you.

                              Drummond gave Harden the baton in the lead. Harden proceeds to run 9.3 as Gilbert takes three metres out of him. That's the race right there. Marsh and Surin were pretty even round the curve. Bailey wins going away and Mitchell has nothing to fight for.

                              Put Mitchell second. Lewis gets the baton in the lead and has a chance of holding on.

                              Capiche?
                              HAHAHA.....and MArsh gets roasted on 3rd, putting Bailey in the lead for good.
                              ...The End :wink:

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                              • Marsh didn't get roasted by Surin though did he.

                                The trouble with acting like you know it all is you keep saying really dumb things. Perhaps you should try a bit harder. Come on. I know you can do it. You'll be out the bottom half of the class in no time if you put your mind to it.

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