U.S.mens 4x1: What do we do NOW?

[TrainerPhil]

Okay thanks for deciding that Phil.

Hahaha. I wish I had that kind of power. But I think the American fellas decided that on their own. If the stick gets around, the boys in blue will be Silver at worst.

[justblaze1011]

The USA might not win a medal. I think Trinidad and France can beat them.

You don't even believe what you just posted!!

[Speedfirst]

The USA might not win a medal. I think Trinidad and France can beat them.

You don't even believe what you just posted!!

:lol:

[knite]

The USA might not win a medal. I think Trinidad and France can beat them.

You don't even believe what you just posted!!

:lol:

Yeah, that's funny!

[dakota]

Trinidad can pick:

1) The Olympic silver medallist PB 9.89 SB 10.01
2) The only man to reach the last three major 100m finals PB 9.96 SB 10.04
3) The former world silver medallist and world junior record holder PB 9.99 SB 10.05
4) Their choice of three men who've run 10.03, 10.08 and 10.10 this year.

USA have more chance of losing to Trinidad than they got of beating Jamaica!

[texas_speed]

You're reaching now...

[dakota]

USA

Tyson Gay
Ivory Williams
Michael Rodgers
Walter Dix
Travis Padgett
Trindon Holliday
Darvis Patton
Rae Edwards
Mark Jelks
Leroy Dixon
Shawn Crawford
Wallace Spearmon
Dwight Phillips
Terrence Trammell
LaShawn Merritt
Kerron Clement

Pick a team which is likely to be able to match Brown/Burns/Callender/Thompson for flat speed in Berlin.

[Speedfirst]

Mike, Tyson, Doc, Dix, for one.

[Jerome Marrow]

The US has more than 4 guys with better SBs than anyone from Trinidad. If you consider speed with a run-in, it is even more dramatic.

I think there is a probability though of >50% that the US doesn't get a medal. Point being that we seem to get the stick around without issues less than half the time. Even when the stick gets around, the hand-offs can be complete crap (ie 2004) and cost lots of time. The US has had probably 4-5 teams that should have been able to put together a sub 37, but it never happened because of poor stick management. It is a lot easier for teams with smaller pools to at least get the requisite work here since there aren't as many options and many of their athletes don't have much of a chance as an individual and can dedicate more time to putting together a good relay leg (with equally good exchanges).

[texas_speed]

USA

Tyson Gay
Ivory Williams
Michael Rodgers
Walter Dix
Travis Padgett
Trindon Holliday
Darvis Patton
Rae Edwards
Mark Jelks
Leroy Dixon
Shawn Crawford
Wallace Spearmon
Dwight Phillips
Terrence Trammell
LaShawn Merritt
Kerron Clement

Pick a team which is likely to be able to match Brown/Burns/Callender/Thompson for flat speed in Berlin.

There's actually several lineups that could be made of all the people you mentioned that would beat Trinidad in Berlin, primarily because the US has several people at its disposal superior to the middle two legs for Trinidad.

[dakota]

There's actually several lineups that could be made of all the people you mentioned that would beat Trinidad in Berlin, primarily because the US has several people at its disposal superior to the middle two legs for Trinidad.

You don't get to run several teams you get to run one. Pick it.

[Speedfirst]

There's actually several lineups that could be made of all the people you mentioned that would beat Trinidad in Berlin, primarily because the US has several people at its disposal superior to the middle two legs for Trinidad.

You don't get to run several teams you get to run one. Pick it.

I did pick one.

[texas_speed]

This is all hypothetical so its pointless. Speedfirst gave you one lineup so go with that. You listed a bunch of guys who aren't even in contention for the US relay so I guess you just feel like arguing.

Trinidad WILL NOT finish ahead of the US unless we drop the stick again.

How's that?

[knite]

This is all hypothetical so its pointless. Speedfirst gave you one lineup so go with that. You listed a bunch of guys who aren't even in contention for the US relay so I guess you just feel like arguing.

Trinidad WILL NOT finish ahead of the US unless we drop the stick again.

How's that?

Ditto on that!

[dakota]

Mike, Tyson, Doc, Dix, for one.

Dix and Gay have been injured. Big questions there.

Burns beat Patton in the Beijing final. Thompson is the Olympic silver medallist.