Men's 400m standard - Disappointing?

[3a]

There's a thread bashing the men's high jumpers. But, come on. I've just seen that David Gillick of Ireland is number 4 in the world. Kudos to him on a super NR but, where has the depth gone? What's more, the 44'50 WL was set on the first of may. Almost 3 months ago!!!

:shock:

44.50 LaShawn Merritt USA 27/06/1986 1 Baie Mahault 01/05/2009

44.66 Jeremy Wariner USA 31/01/1984 1 Carson, CA 16/05/2009

44.73 Latroy Williams BAH 28/05/1988 1 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009

44.77 Tabarie Henry ISV 12/01/1987 2 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009
44.77 David Gillick IRL 09/07/1983 1 Madrid 04/07/2009
44.78 Jonathan Borlée BEL 22/02/1988 1 Fayetteville, AR 13/06/2009
44.81 Chris Brown BAH 15/10/1978 1 Roma 10/07/2009


44.86 Gil Roberts USA 15/03/1989 1 Lubbock, TX 17/05/2009
44.89 Renny Quow TRI 25/08/1987 2 New York City, NY 30/05/2009

Add to that the fact that Williams hasn't done anything near that again, Borlee is out, well...I just hope there are a LOT of SB's in Berlin. It feels like 2001 again when Ingo Schulze nearly won with a 44.5

[nevetsllim]

I know what you mean. The event wasn't that brilliant going into Beijing too but the standard is even poorer this year. I mean, Michael Bingham could make the final and he hasn't run inside 45-seconds.

The women's triple jump is probably even weaker. Before this weekend, only three athletes had surpassed 14.50m!

[3a]

I know what you mean. The event wasn't that brilliant going into Beijing too but the standard is even poorer this year. I mean, Michael Bingham could make the final and he hasn't run inside 45-seconds.

The women's triple jump is probably even weaker. Before this weekend, only three athletes had surpassed 14.50m!

Wariner maintained a high standard after Athens, MJ did it after Atlanta...either Merrit is planning the perfect peak or, he just hasn't put in the work.


The Top Europeans, Rooney, Benjamin and Borlee are all missing out on a great opportunity. TBH I was expecting Bingham to win NCAA's in a pb 44.6 PB - maybe I was just 3 months ahead of myself?

Who is the third American, off hand and has he even broken 45?

I genuinely think that 17 year old kid, Kirani James could medal if he turned up in Berlin. :shock:

[t_monk]

Re: Men's 400m standard - Disappointing?

There's a thread bashing the men's high jumpers. But, come on. I've just seen that David Gillick of Ireland is number 4 in the world. Kudos to him on a super NR but, where has the depth gone? What's more, the 44'50 WL was set on the first of may. Almost 3 months ago!!!

:shock:

44.50 LaShawn Merritt USA 27/06/1986 1 Baie Mahault 01/05/2009

44.66 Jeremy Wariner USA 31/01/1984 1 Carson, CA 16/05/2009

44.73 Latroy Williams BAH 28/05/1988 1 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009

44.77 Tabarie Henry ISV 12/01/1987 2 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009
44.77 David Gillick IRL 09/07/1983 1 Madrid 04/07/2009
44.78 Jonathan Borlée BEL 22/02/1988 1 Fayetteville, AR 13/06/2009
44.81 Chris Brown BAH 15/10/1978 1 Roma 10/07/2009


44.86 Gil Roberts USA 15/03/1989 1 Lubbock, TX 17/05/2009
44.89 Renny Quow TRI 25/08/1987 2 New York City, NY 30/05/2009

Add to that the fact that Williams hasn't done anything near that again, Borlee is out, Roberts isn't on the team and, well...I just hope there are a LOT of SB's in Berlin. It feels like 2001 again when Ingo Schulze nearly won with a 44.5

Add to that that the Bahamian team has had a series of setback. The Jamaican team is arguably the weakest it has been in years.

[3a]

Re: Men's 400m standard - Disappointing?

There's a thread bashing the men's high jumpers. But, come on. I've just seen that David Gillick of Ireland is number 4 in the world. Kudos to him on a super NR but, where has the depth gone? What's more, the 44'50 WL was set on the first of may. Almost 3 months ago!!!

:shock:

44.50 LaShawn Merritt USA 27/06/1986 1 Baie Mahault 01/05/2009

44.66 Jeremy Wariner USA 31/01/1984 1 Carson, CA 16/05/2009

44.73 Latroy Williams BAH 28/05/1988 1 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009

44.77 Tabarie Henry ISV 12/01/1987 2 Hutchinson, KS 23/05/2009
44.77 David Gillick IRL 09/07/1983 1 Madrid 04/07/2009
44.78 Jonathan Borlée BEL 22/02/1988 1 Fayetteville, AR 13/06/2009
44.81 Chris Brown BAH 15/10/1978 1 Roma 10/07/2009


44.86 Gil Roberts USA 15/03/1989 1 Lubbock, TX 17/05/2009
44.89 Renny Quow TRI 25/08/1987 2 New York City, NY 30/05/2009

Add to that the fact that Williams hasn't done anything near that again, Borlee is out, Roberts isn't on the team and, well...I just hope there are a LOT of SB's in Berlin. It feels like 2001 again when Ingo Schulze nearly won with a 44.5

Add to that that the Bahamian team has had a series of setback. The Jamaican team is arguably the weakest it has been in years.

I did Williams hasn't done anything near that again.

[OBUTRACKSTER]

Why is Gil not running at worlds?

[einnod23]

So, who's the only non-American male in the last 40 years besides Avan Moncour to win a championship 400?

[gh]

Why is Gil not running at worlds?

that would be news to me.

[gm]

So, who's the only non-American male in the last 40 years besides Avan Moncour to win a championship 400?

Juantorena?

[3a]

Why is Gil not running at worlds?

that would be news to me.

I believe that was my error. I figured the team was Merrit, Wariner, Clement..... turns out US have 4 spots and Roberts finished 2nd at trials? Right?

[knite]

Why is Gil not running at worlds?

that would be news to me.

Did they post the final team that states he's not, cuz otherwise he's on that team.

[3a]

So, who's the only non-American male in the last 40 years besides Avan Moncour to win a championship 400?

Avard

But that is a SCARY statistic. Utter domination

[dj]

So, who's the only non-American male in the last 40 years besides Avan Moncour to win a championship 400?

Juantorena?

OG: Markin
WC: Schonlebe, Cameron

I think that's it.

[gm]

Markin didn't count :lol:

[dakota]

Isn't the US individual 400m team more likely to be Wariner, Merritt, Roberts, Larry?

What sort of size is Roberts? He's made a team and he's only 20 which makes him the sort of American 400m athlete who suddenly runs low 44 out of nowhere. We're probably due the next one any day now. Shall we pencil him in for a medal in 44.10?