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  • #31
    all-time U.S. top 10:

    1. 1:42.60 Johnny Gray (SMTC) 8/28/85
    2. 1:43.20 Mark Everett (Pow) 7/09/97
    3. 1:43.35 David Mack (SMTC) 8/28/85
    4. 1:43.38 Rich Kenah (Asics) 8/13/97
    5. 1:43.5+ Rick Wohlhuter (UCTC) 6/08/74
    6. 1:43.62 Earl Jones (SMTC) 8/13/86
    7. 1:43.68 Khadevis Robinson (Nike) 8/27/06
    8. 1:43.83 Nick Symmonds (Oregon TC) 7/28/09
    9. 1:43.84 Alan Webb (Nike) 7/28/07
    =10. 1:43.92 John Marshall (Vill) 6/19/84
    =10. 1:43.92 James Robinson (ICAC) 6/19/84
    =10. 1:43.92 David Krummenacker (adidas) 8/30/02

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mikewats
      Saying that i do think he could do with some more time in the gym to work on his strength.
      And perhaps some crossword puzzles.

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      • #33
        Nick's switch to Mark Rowland as coach may be just the thing he needs to make the steps he started hopefully today towards being a world contender.

        Great job Nick!

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        • #34
          Wohlhuter still looks good on that list after 35 years.

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          • #35
            Oh WOW!

            Was just watching the meet on tv right now, without knowing the results ahead of time or anything, and was really hoping to see Nick Symmonds to be pushed into dropping a PR against this field.

            And he did!!!!!!

            HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE PR for Symmonds!

            From 1:45.03 all the way down to 1:43.83!!!! He shaved a whopping 1.2 seconds of his old PR!

            It's as if he doesn't notice how fucking tired he is at the end of these 800m races and just goes into tunnel-vision mode at the end of the race, regardless of what the pace was for the first 750 meters lol. I was hoping something just like this would happen for him!

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            • #36
              Atheist, oh ye of little faith, your man Symmonds had a pb of 1:44.10 going into the race, so it was a pb by .27 sec. However, you're correct that he ran well...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 2 cents
                Atheist, oh ye of little faith, your man Symmonds had a pb of 1:44.10 going into the race, so it was a pb by .27 sec. However, you're correct that he ran well...
                Ah, I thought the 1:45.03 mark they showed on tv sounded a little slow, even for Nick, so I guess that makes more sense.

                He's got a lot of heart, and a fun running style to watch, so should be fun to see how fast he can go in Berlin.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cubop
                  Wohlhuter still looks good on that list after 35 years.
                  I remember seeing the Johnny Gray AR, but I would not have remembered or even guessed that David Mack PRed in the same race. It was in Koblenz, the same night as Henry Marsh's former AR in the steeple.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gadlor
                    1:43.83 for symmonds! woooooooo!
                    Tracked Borzo the whole way too, attempted to outkick him. Don't think he will try that again any time soon. Must have learnt something from this race. Definitely a genuine threat for the gold if he comes up with and executes the right race plan. Kaki can be vulnerable off a slow pace as we saw in the olys when he failed to make the final.

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                    • #40
                      By the way, it looked to me that Symmonds got boxed behind Borzo and others at about the 120 mark and just after.

                      It seemed like Symmonds had a little more in the tank, as his kick got help up a bit coming off the turn.

                      that's an extremely encouraging race for Symmonds.

                      I now believe that Symmonds can in fact mix it up with the big boys at Worlds. He's got a great shot at the final. I think a medal is unlikely, but he does on evidence have a real shot at it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Non Potest
                        Kaki can be vulnerable off a slow pace as we saw in the olys when he failed to make the final.
                        I'm not sure what was wrong with Kaki in Beijing, but it appeared to have nothing to do with a slow pace.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 2 cents
                          I'm not sure what was wrong with Kaki in Beijing, but it appeared to have nothing to do with a slow pace.
                          He'd been ripping since indoors. I'd assume that would be the primary complaint, as opposed to pacing.

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                          • #43
                            [quote=The Atheist]
                            Originally posted by "2 cents":3sxfjd4a
                            Atheist, oh ye of little faith, your man Symmonds had a pb of 1:44.10 going into the race, so it was a pb by .27 sec. However, you're correct that he ran well...
                            Ah, I thought the 1:45.03 mark they showed on tv sounded a little slow, even for Nick, so I guess that makes more sense.[/quote:3sxfjd4a]

                            It was Lewandowski who had a PB of 1:45.03 before the race.
                            Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by gh
                              all-time U.S. top 10:

                              1. 1:42.60 Johnny Gray (SMTC) 8/28/85
                              2. 1:43.20 Mark Everett (Pow) 7/09/97
                              3. 1:43.35 David Mack (SMTC) 8/28/85
                              4. 1:43.38 Rich Kenah (Asics) 8/13/97
                              5. 1:43.5+ Rick Wohlhuter (UCTC) 6/08/74
                              6. 1:43.62 Earl Jones (SMTC) 8/13/86
                              7. 1:43.68 Khadevis Robinson (Nike) 8/27/06
                              8. 1:43.83 Nick Symmonds (Oregon TC) 7/28/09
                              9. 1:43.84 Alan Webb (Nike) 7/28/07
                              =10. 1:43.92 John Marshall (Vill) 6/19/84
                              =10. 1:43.92 James Robinson (ICAC) 6/19/84
                              =10. 1:43.92 David Krummenacker (adidas) 8/30/02
                              Of those ahead of Robinson and Symmonds, five (all but David Mack, who I guess distinguished himself in other ways) earned either WC or OG medals (all bronze). Perhaps Robinson and/or Symmonds can add to that.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Master Po
                                Originally posted by gh
                                all-time U.S. top 10:

                                1. 1:42.60 Johnny Gray (SMTC) 8/28/85
                                2. 1:43.20 Mark Everett (Pow) 7/09/97
                                3. 1:43.35 David Mack (SMTC) 8/28/85
                                4. 1:43.38 Rich Kenah (Asics) 8/13/97
                                5. 1:43.5+ Rick Wohlhuter (UCTC) 6/08/74
                                6. 1:43.62 Earl Jones (SMTC) 8/13/86
                                7. 1:43.68 Khadevis Robinson (Nike) 8/27/06
                                8. 1:43.83 Nick Symmonds (Oregon TC) 7/28/09
                                9. 1:43.84 Alan Webb (Nike) 7/28/07
                                =10. 1:43.92 John Marshall (Vill) 6/19/84
                                =10. 1:43.92 James Robinson (ICAC) 6/19/84
                                =10. 1:43.92 David Krummenacker (adidas) 8/30/02
                                Of those ahead of Robinson and Symmonds, five (all but David Mack, who I guess distinguished himself in other ways) earned either WC or OG medals (all bronze). Perhaps Robinson and/or Symmonds can add to that.
                                I was just a young lad when that American record was set, but do remember Gray's awesome trials run in '92 running 1:42.80 with Everett and Parilla in tow and Kersh being nipped at the line. Times were like

                                Gray 1:42.80
                                Everett 1:43.67
                                Parilla 1:43.97
                                Kersh 1:44.00

                                And the look on Kersh's face afterward was haunting...I still remember it!

                                One of the best 800m races I seen in a looong time!

                                I just hope Robinson and Symmonds can make some headway in Berlin and possibly make the final. From there its anyone's race!

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