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  • Powell
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    Originally posted by 3
    Ms. Hasay couldn't compete in the heat in 2007; she was willing to enter events contested in the heat, but the heat itself was her main adversary which sometimes got the better of her.
    I don't have meteorological data from 2007 at hand, but looking at Hasay's races that year, she won the national junior title in Indy (setting a PR), and also had wins in places like Sacramento and Folsom, CA - all of those wins were in June. It doesn't suggest to me she couldn't compete in hot weather.

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  • 3
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    Mr. Powell, I'm not changing the topic.

    Perhaps you have a problem discerning what I've written vs what you would like to believe that I've stated? You've done so on the previous thread when you told me that I believed Mr. Wariner would breakthrough by some big margin in Berlin when I never stated any such case.

    Read this again: *I seem to recall that Ms. Hasay, as little as two years ago, was *not* a good hot weather competitor. She's now won a meaningful title in the heat.*

    Ms. Hasay couldn't compete in the heat in 2007; she was willing to enter events contested in the heat, but the heat itself was her main adversary which sometimes got the better of her.

    Does this mean that she had competition she could not defeat because the weather was hot, or can this also imply that Ms. Hasay was unable to contest races in the heat despite the level of her competition?

    Ms. Hasay was interviewed by the magasine Sports Illustrated 3 years ago. She revealed that she loves running in the cold, she usually runs in the mornings, and said clearly *I don't run well in the heat at all.*

    If she's now been able to master the challenge of running in the heat, has she not become a better competitor as a result of being able to break down this barrier to success? The heat, having no further authority over her plan to follow a decisive tactic, becomes then a non-issue in this context. Therefore, it is not illogical to conclude that having become better equipped to deal with the heat has led to being able to win a significant (for Ms. Hasay) title in it despite how many seconds back the competition may have been.

    Give that a moment of consideration before you jump to further conclusions. I'm good for my word and don't need to change topics or subjects to shake out something which may or not stick.

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  • Powell
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    You're changing the topic now. Your point earlier was that Hasay's victory proved she's now a good hot weather competitor. Now, if she was competing against runners 10 seconds slower than her, that's not true. She could have won even if she was running badly by her standards.

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  • 3
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    Mr. Powell, I am relatively certain that this victory wasn't at the top of her all-time list of accomplishments achieved. However, she did ascribe a certain amount of worth to this event and pursued this title instead of taking a rest period between the most important period of her career --- between high school and college. This victory adds a feather to her cap.

    Let's look at the opposite of what you're attempting to point out: Was this victory insignificant, useless or worthless to Ms. Hasay? Your point of view and classification of what is meaningful --- as mine --- would be meaningless in the context of what Ms. Hasay set out to achieve in 2009.

    Relative to what her goals may have been, this title may have a meaning which is of less worth to you than to her.

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  • Powell
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    Originally posted by 3
    I seem to recall that Ms. Hasay, as little as two years ago, was *not* a good hot weather competitor. She's now won a meaningful title in the heat.
    'Meaningful' is relative. I suspect she had no rivals anywhere near her caliber.

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  • mojo
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    Our athlete's relay team got DQed. Too bad.

    Wow-the place does look empty. I wonder why.......


    Mind you it was the same in Brazil 2 years by all accounts.

    Bring the meet back to Canada!

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  • bad hammy
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    Video of Wayne Davis' run. Looks like five, literally five fans in the stands: http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do ... o_id=15595

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  • t_monk
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    Event 211 Women 200 Meter Dash
    ================================================== ===================
    World: W 21.34 9/29/1988 Florence Griffith-Joyner, USA
    World Jr: J 22.18 8/25/2004 Allyson Felix, USA
    Pan Am Champ: P 22.93 7/3/2003 Shalonda Solomon, USA, Bridgetown,
    2009 Best: * 22.94 Chalonda Goodman, USA, Greensboro,
    Name Year Team Finals Wind
    ================================================== ===================
    Finals
    1 Goodman, Chalonda 90 USA 23.08 1.3
    2 Allen, Tasha 90 USA 23.51 1.3
    3 Levy, Jura 90 Jamaica 23.93 1.3
    4 Caicedo, Nelcy 90 Colombia 24.01 1.3
    5 Giles, Nyoka 90 Trinidad & Tobago 24.13 1.3
    6 Padilla, Jenifer 90 Colombia 24.43 1.3
    7 Cherizola, Alejandra 90 Mexico 24.56 1.3
    8 Pemberton, Marecia 90 ST Kitts & Nevis 24.66 1.3

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  • justblaze1011
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    Event 214 Men 200 Meter Dash
    ================================================== ===================
    World: W 19.30 8/20/2008 Usain Bolt, JAM @ Beijing, CHN
    World Jr: J 19.93 4/11/2004 Usain Bolt, JAM
    Pan Am Champ: P 20.13 7/3/2001 Usain Bolt, JAM, Bridgetown, BAR
    2009 Best: * 20.04 Ramil Guliyev, AZE, Beograd, SER
    Name Year Team Finals Wind
    ================================================== ===================
    Finals
    1 Ashmeade, Nickel 90 Jamaica 20.40 1.4
    [b]2 Talley, Keyth 90 USA 20.78 1.4[/b]
    3 MC Kenzie, Ramone 90 Jamaica 20.79 1.4
    4 Cavalcanti, Diego Henriq 91 Brazil 20.97 1.4
    5 Rolle, Karlton 90 Bahamas 21.11 1.4
    6 Van Lamoen, Rachmill 91 Netherlands Ant 21.14 1.4
    7 Stewart, Rohan 90 Canada 21.24 1.4
    8 Makinde, Oluwasegun 91 Canada 21.29 1.4

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  • richxx87
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    I can't remember seeing anybody close to Jelmini this season, let alone beat her.

    Women's Discus Throw
    Finals
    1 Morais, Andressa 90 Brazil 55.28m
    55.11m 55.28m FOUL FOUL 53.69m FOUL
    2 Jelmini, Anastasia 90 USA 54.91m
    47.36m 51.29m FOUL 53.15m 54.91m 51.74m
    3 Pendleton, Erin 91 USA 48.01m
    48.01m FOUL FOUL 46.42m FOUL FOUL
    The Brazilan PRd and Jelmini was nearly 3 meters off her SB

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  • pachip
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    Originally posted by az2004
    good to get these results...

    crouser losing to a kid from argentina....in the javelin...

    Finals
    1 Toledo, Braian 93 Argentina 69.84m
    66.63m 67.86m 64.50m 64.10m FOUL 69.84m
    2 Crouser, Samuel 91 USA 67.90m
    62.52m 67.90m 64.42m FOUL 62.51m 65.43m
    3 Byers, Matthew 90 USA 65.83m
    65.83m 55.45m 61.05m 56.70m 60.19m 61.72m
    4 Silva, Lucas Brazil 63.73m
    62.79m FOUL 63.73m 60.44m 62.11m 61.23m
    4 Jones, Caleb 91 Canada 63.73m
    62.97m FOUL 63.73m 60.44m 62.11m 61.23m
    6 Pastrana, Manuel 92 Puerto Rico 62.98m
    62.54m 62.98m 54.18m 55.65m FOUL FOUL
    7 Mendez Rojas, Erick 91 Costa Rica 51.81m
    FOUL FOUL 49.66m 51.81m 49.51m 46.46m
    New PB for this kid!!!! He's 15 Years old!!!!

    Everybody here expected a bronze...or silver...3 weeks ago he won bronze in World Youth Championships with a toss of 74.33 (700 gr javelin) Last week he threw 69.63 (pb) for silver in the South American Junior Championships. Now, improving again...this kid has no ceiling. His coach said that in 3 years, he could break Thorkildsen WJR.

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  • MJR
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    Another 4th place finish for Trevor Barron.

    Event 201 Men 10000 Meter Race Walk
    ================================================== ==============
    World: W 39:15.00 10/12/1987 Isama Fujisawa, JPN @ Toky
    World Jr: J 38:46.4h 5/20/2000 Viktor Burayev, RUS
    Pan Am Champ: P 39:50.73 7/15/1993 Marco A. Rodriguez, ESA, W
    2009 Best: * 40:40.0h Caio Bonfim, BRA, Blumenau
    Name Year Team Finals
    ================================================== ==============
    Finals
    1 Gomez, Pedro Daniel 90 Mexico 42:19.56
    2 Bonfim, Caio 91 Brazil 42:43.58
    3 Torres, Giovanni 90 Mexico 42:46.89
    4 Barron, Trevor 90 USA 42:50.51
    5 Montana, Jose Leonardo 92 Colombia 43:06.27
    6 Dunfee, Evan 90 Canada 43:27.04
    7 Castenada, Alexander 92 Colombia 43:58.80
    8 Toloza, Felipe 90 Chile 47:08.21
    9 Forgues, Matthew 92 USA 48:42.58
    10 Martin, Diego 90 Brazil 49:49.42
    -- Magallanes, Ariel 91 Argentina DQ Rule 230.1

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  • az2004
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    good to get these results...

    crouser losing to a kid from argentina....in the javelin...

    Finals
    1 Toledo, Braian 93 Argentina 69.84m
    66.63m 67.86m 64.50m 64.10m FOUL 69.84m
    2 Crouser, Samuel 91 USA 67.90m
    62.52m 67.90m 64.42m FOUL 62.51m 65.43m
    3 Byers, Matthew 90 USA 65.83m
    65.83m 55.45m 61.05m 56.70m 60.19m 61.72m
    4 Silva, Lucas Brazil 63.73m
    62.79m FOUL 63.73m 60.44m 62.11m 61.23m
    4 Jones, Caleb 91 Canada 63.73m
    62.97m FOUL 63.73m 60.44m 62.11m 61.23m
    6 Pastrana, Manuel 92 Puerto Rico 62.98m
    62.54m 62.98m 54.18m 55.65m FOUL FOUL
    7 Mendez Rojas, Erick 91 Costa Rica 51.81m
    FOUL FOUL 49.66m 51.81m 49.51m 46.46m

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  • gh
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    The WR over 99cm was 13.12.... not Liu's fault they set the barriers too high in his race.

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  • Jon
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    Originally posted by Half Miler
    World Junior Record for Wayne Davis, if these wind readings are accurate.
    And, he's got another year left to improve on it!
    1 Davis, Wayne 91 USA 13.08J 2.0
    Either way fast time for 39' hurdle height. I wonder if it will convert to the 42"????
    Xiang's 13.12 is still the superior performance by far. USATF's info in their news release is misleading because they say that Davis broke Xiang's record. In fact, the previous WJR over the 99cm hurdles was Artur Noga's 13.23.

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