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Originally posted by SmokeOriginally posted by SantaCruzWatched it on German television. Felix looked very fast. Good anchoring by Jeter. Exchanges were so-so.
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Originally posted by texas_speedSomething tells me Jeter didn't shut anything down. I envision it as being relatively close going into the anchor and Jeter just blowing it out of the water.
Hopefully a video will surface so we can all judge it for ourselves.
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Felix will be on the final relay barring injury.
I think you saw exactly what they plan on doing with the structure of the relays.
Heat: Lauryn-Alex-Marshevet-Carmelita
Final: Lauryn-Allyson-Muna-Carmelita
If for some reason Muna were to be injured through the rounds Marshevet and Carmelita worked together in London so that would be the logical replacement.
Of course this is going on absolutely zero knowedge of what actually took place today in terms of the passes and how who ran what legs but it seems safe to assume that's how it'll play out.
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Originally posted by texas_speedSomething tells me Jeter didn't shut anything down. I envision it as being relatively close going into the anchor and Jeter just blowing it out of the water.
Hopefully a video will surface so we can all judge it for ourselves.
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Originally posted by texas_speedFelix will be on the final relay barring injury.
I think you saw exactly what they plan on doing with the structure of the relays.
Heat: Lauryn-Alex-Marshevet-Carmelita
Final: Lauryn-Allyson-Muna-Carmelita
If for some reason Muna were to be injured through the rounds Marshevet and Carmelita worked together in London so that would be the logical replacement.
Of course this is going on absolutely zero knowedge of what actually took place today in terms of the passes and how who ran what legs but it seems safe to assume that's how it'll play out.on the road
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I don't know why this performance is such a surprise to some folks, with reasonable passes it's in line with what I'd expect given the current form of the American sprinters. Take for example the 2004 Jamaican team which had at the time.
VCB in 10.9 form
Simpson in just under 11.1 form
Bailey in just under 11.1 form
Lawrence in just under 11.2 form (generous perhaps)
That team, with mediocre passes ran about 2 tenths slower than the Americans did today with what sounds like slightly better passes, today's Jamaican team will look like (barring injury etc): -
VCB in 10.9 or around 11.00 shape
Stewart in 10.7 or maybe 10.8 or even 10.9 shape
SAF likely in 10.7 but maybe 10.8 shape
and Books lets say sub 11.2
Seems to me 41.5 won't be that big of a deal for them, probably more like 41.4 or 41.3 to be honest. The key is, can they get the stick around fairly efficiently?
All in all, nobody should be surprised by the excellent performance of the Americans but if the script holds, this won't be nearly enough.
Just my 2 cents
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Originally posted by DrewsunI don't know why this performance is such a surprise to some folks, with reasonable passes it's in line with what I'd expect given the current form of the American sprinters. Take for example the 2004 Jamaican team which had at the time.
VCB in 10.9 form
Simpson in just under 11.1 form
Bailey in just under 11.1 form
Lawrence in just under 11.2 form (generous perhaps)
That team, with mediocre passes ran about 2 tenths slower than the Americans did today with what sounds like slightly better passes, today's Jamaican team will look like (barring injury etc): -
VCB in 10.9 or around 11.00 shape
Stewart in 10.7 or maybe 10.8 or even 10.9 shape
SAF likely in 10.7 but maybe 10.8 shape
and Books lets say sub 11.2
Seems to me 41.5 won't be that big of a deal for them, probably more like 41.4 or 41.3 to be honest. The key is, can they get the stick around fairly efficiently?
All in all, nobody should be surprised by the excellent performancte of the Americans but if the script holds, this won't be nearly enough.
Just my 2 centson the road
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Originally posted by SpeedfirstOriginally posted by DrewsunI don't know why this performance is such a surprise to some folks, with reasonable passes it's in line with what I'd expect given the current form of the American sprinters. Take for example the 2004 Jamaican team which had at the time.
VCB in 10.9 form
Simpson in just under 11.1 form
Bailey in just under 11.1 form
Lawrence in just under 11.2 form (generous perhaps)
That team, with mediocre passes ran about 2 tenths slower than the Americans did today with what sounds like slightly better passes, today's Jamaican team will look like (barring injury etc): -
VCB in 10.9 or around 11.00 shape
Stewart in 10.7 or maybe 10.8 or even 10.9 shape
SAF likely in 10.7 but maybe 10.8 shape
and Books lets say sub 11.2
Seems to me 41.5 won't be that big of a deal for them, probably more like 41.4 or 41.3 to be honest. The key is, can they get the stick around fairly efficiently?
All in all, nobody should be surprised by the excellent performancte of the Americans but if the script holds, this won't be nearly enough.
Just my 2 cents
1. I expect Brooks vs Williams on start, given current form not much between them but advantage Americans I say.
2. On second, Stewart vs Felix, clear advantage to the Jamaicans if Stewart is ok, she has blinding speed and is accustomed to the left hand carry on backstretch so the Jamaican's reach the 3rd leg first (but only just).
3. Third leg VCB vs Lee, even in less the stellar form VCB's work on the turn is legendary (2 Olympic Golds) not much of a contest here, the Jamaicans begin to pull away.
4. Anchor sees SAF vs Jeter, it hardly seems fair especially since the Jamaican already has a lead. So the Jamaican's put it away, world record perhaps? The American's run faster than they did today but the Jamaicans have the speed to get the job done.
My 2 cents, any takers?
P.S. I really love this American team, definitley the best lineup possible I think.
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I'll go with the U.S. especially after today's race, that was a great confidence booster and in particular knowing they can and will run faster.
Again I'll take a primed Allyson over a 2009 Simpson, what she can do this year is still not certain. I'll go with Carmelita with a running start as well on anchor. Relays certainly aren't the same with respect to the open races/times.on the road
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Originally posted by texas_speedDon't see Fraser anywhere near anchor. She'll be on 1st.
And I love the IDEA of VCB on 3rd but when has it ever happened?
I still think VCB anchors...just like she was set to do in Beijing.
The Jamaican coaches would do well to heed today's warning from the Americans and give careful thought to the lineups.
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