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  • #16
    Originally posted by nony
    The story should have never been leaked so prematurely, all just to prove to the world that you are on top of things. This was just one huge overreaction by the Jamaican authorities and by the fans or haters on this forum, lets move on it's not that big a deal.
    This coming from you??? Please, don't make me find your classic TS post and put you on blast!!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nony
      The story should have never been leaked so prematurely, all just to prove to the world that you are on top of things. This was just one huge overreaction by the Jamaican authorities and by the fans or haters on this forum, lets move on it's not that big a deal.
      ***To the tune of What A Difference A Day Makes*** What a difference a year makes.... :shock: :lol:

      :shock: :shock: :shock: Irony thy name is nony.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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      • #18
        Originally posted by justblaze1011
        Originally posted by nony
        The story should have never been leaked so prematurely, all just to prove to the world that you are on top of things. This was just one huge overreaction by the Jamaican authorities and by the fans or haters on this forum, lets move on it's not that big a deal.
        This coming from you??? Please, don't make me find your classic TS post and put you on blast!!!
        If it wasn't serious enough for these athletes to be banned then it should have never been leaked to the press so prematurley. If it's not enough for them to tbe banned then I guess it wasn't such a big deal. If' it's not big a deal then lets move on, no scandal here, that's all I'm saying. Jamaica caved into the pressure of trying to prove to the haters how much we are on top of things. They wanted the world to doubt us, misery loves company. It worked somewhat, they didn't get exactly what they wanted which was Bolt and Asafa on a platter, but they feel they got enough plant some doubt. I say F it and lets move on for the benefit of the sport.

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        • #19
          I don't care, as long as long as the result is rightly decided.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RamGoat
            I don't care, as long as long as the result is rightly decided.
            From what has come out, and how, how can we know if it is 'rightly decided'? Leaking stuff and then hiding behind the need for 'secrecy' is almost beyond tacky.

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            • #21
              [quote="nony"]The story should have never been leaked so prematurel..../quote]

              In terms of the "legality" of having done so, you are 100% correct. But imagine this scenario: it doesn't get leaked, the 5 are cleared (just as they apparently have been) and compete in Berlin. Then the IAAF reverses the Jamaican decision, and poisoned relays have medals taken away. Which would you feel worse about?

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              • #22
                The funny thing is we, the hardcore track fans, are the only ones perplexed about this issue. Its like a fly that pitched on the head of the general public; that took of before they even noticed it. To you, It's a big rock stone lobbed to to the fore head.

                Its all over man; we should move on. JADCO and JAAA are new to this so its going to be a little awkward.
                It's the hardcore fans fault for diving down on the story as soon as it broke. Most others aren't even aware of the hiccup. :lol:

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                • #23
                  There have been how many stories in the main Jamaican papers?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Haskell45
                    The funny thing is we, the hardcore track fans, are the only ones perplexed about this issue. Its like a fly that pitched on the head of the general public; that took of before they even noticed it. To you, It's a big rock stone lobbed to to the fore head.

                    Its all over man; we should move on. JADCO and JAAA are new to this so its going to be a little awkward.
                    It's the hardcore fans fault for diving down on the story as soon as it broke. Most others aren't even aware of the hiccup. :lol:
                    Tsk, Tsk, Tsk Haskell, you don't get off that easy uh uh... I am gonna assume that you are the same Haskel that used to be on Trackshark, if not, then sorry about what I'm gonna say. If that is you, then you have got to be one of the most hypocritical persons I know. I remember you and a slew of new Jamaican posters who used to let it rip on the US athletes about drugs and the whole Victor Conte issue. This issue may not be of that big a magnitude, but it should in no way be swept under the rug. There should be no coverups and a big deal should be made out of it. Its your subscribed way of thinking why we have the problems we do in our sports now, because when nothing is done to fix or combat the small issues of drugs, then athletes think they can continue doing the same thing and then it becomes a bigger issue. Whether intentional or not, it is the responsibility of the athletes or their handlers to cross reference everything they take against the banned list, and if they're not sure, then stick to whatever supplement or drink, etc that they already know. It can't be wrong for the US and have them sent to the guillotine and then say "oh it's not a big deal" because it's our countrymen. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. Please don't stifle your conscience. See that's the problem with us Jamaicans at times, we get caught up in patriotism so much at times that we act like our athletes aren't humans too, and then we get caught with our feet in our mouth. That's not a good taste now is it? This situation was and is still being poorly handled. Someone needs to step in and handle this this responsibly, effectively, and judiciously. Hell we're still unsure of the stimulant. Two names were put out there but we have yet to hear or read a press release from JADCO confirming or denying it. It could be worse for all we know.

                    If it's not you then sorry for calling you a hypocrite, but the rest of my post stands.
                    ~ I bleed BLACK, GREEN, and YELLOW~

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tammy_Baby
                      See that's the problem with us Jamaicans at times, we get caught up in patriotism so much at times that we act like our athletes aren't humans too, and then we get caught with our feet in our mouth.
                      That's the problem a lot of us have to varying degrees. Most people are proud of where they are from (and so they should be) and they often become fanatical about the country they are routing for. Even in the face of common sense many have a hard time putting down the flag and thinking rationally. I understand patriotism and I get defending your country. But patriotism is not an excuse for ignorance. And at the end of the day Tammy you are correct. What's right is right and what is wrong is wrong. And no matter how much we love and route for our countries, we need to have our feet close enough to the ground where we can recognize these rights and wrongs.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by justblaze1011
                        Originally posted by nony
                        The story should have never been leaked so prematurely, all just to prove to the world that you are on top of things. This was just one huge overreaction by the Jamaican authorities and by the fans or haters on this forum, lets move on it's not that big a deal.
                        This coming from you??? Please, don't make me find your classic TS post and put you on blast!!!
                        I forgot to address this, Blaze you will never be able to pull up anything from me on trackshark, if you do I will wire you $500.

                        Tammy I agree that it should be made a big deal if it is, just don't make a big deal about it and then not suspend these athletes. They jumped the gun like a sprinter who has no chance of winning. Why go through the trouble of bringing more scrutiny to Jamaican track and field and not follow through with the suspensions. Track and field has had enough scandals and we need to be extra careful. The only good that may have come out of this is that now these athletes has gotten a good scare.

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                        • #27
                          Unless I missed the IAAF's ruling on this, I wouldn't leap for joy just yet and think they'll all be running.

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                          • #28
                            It’s now official…All four athletes cleared

                            The panel, according to Gammon could not find anything to charge.

                            "We weren’t able to determine conclusively that the drugs that was found as a prohibited substance was not on the WADA prohibited list and therefore we have not found any of the athletes in violation of the code," said Gammon.

                            The name of the drug is 4-Methyl-2-hexanamine.
                            Why was this come up den???????????????????????

                            http://www.trackalerts.com/?p=2372

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                            • #29
                              "We weren’t able to determine conclusively that the drugs that was found as a prohibited substance was not on the WADA prohibited list..."

                              AM I the only one that responded with a "huh?" after reading that?

                              They were not able to determine that the drug was NOT on the list, so there is no violation?

                              Huh?

                              They can't figure out if the drug is NOT listed?

                              Doesn't that then mean that the drug may fall under the sweeping "related" wording of the WADA/IAAF documents?

                              That has got to be a mis-quote.
                              Regards,
                              toyracer

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by toyracer
                                "We weren’t able to determine conclusively that the drugs that was found as a prohibited substance was not on the WADA prohibited list..."

                                AM I the only one that responded with a "huh?" after reading that?

                                They were not able to determine that the drug was NOT on the list, so there is no violation?

                                Huh?

                                They can't figure out if the drug is NOT listed?
                                I'm sure he meant to say "We weren’t able to determine conclusively that the drug found as a prohibited substance is on the WADA prohibited list . That would make more sense. And it looks like the JADCO used the policy put in by the IAAF governing these unknown substances to help clear the athletes. We all read the policy and we really couldn't make heads or tails of it. So that is what JADCO is using to clear the athletes. "It isn't specifically banned, so we can't punish them".........IAAF has some re-writing to do.

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