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  • #46
    Originally posted by scratchman
    The thing is, whatever they took, they know it was helping them.
    And I'm quite sure they knew it wasnt on the banned list.
    5 people with the same thing in their systems? All track athletes? All from the same club?
    .... :roll: C'mon now.
    Correction: two were from the same club, both coached by Glen Mills at Racers Track Club.
    Regards,
    toyracer

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Taliban
      Originally posted by scratchman
      The thing is, whatever they took, they know it was helping them.
      And I'm quite sure they knew it wasnt on the banned list.
      5 people with the same thing in their systems? All track athletes? All from the same club?
      .... :roll: C'mon now.
      I thought the point of taking supplements was to help you?
      And I thought it was the athletes responsibility to know which ones had substances that were banned in them.

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      • #48
        http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1225760382841

        Read the second paragraph :shock: [/url]

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        • #49
          Originally posted by justblaze1011
          http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1225760382841

          Read the second paragraph :shock: [/url]

          WOW!!!!!!!

          Talk about Bush league.................but again this should NOT surprise anyone. We HAVE seen this lack of competency before with the agency.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by justblaze1011
            http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1225760382841

            Read the second paragraph :shock: [/url]
            I didn't know that either because I didn't know one could patent a substance that occurs naturally in foods.
            Apparently methylhexaneamine is found in flower oil such as geranium and so is found in a few supplements as well.
            But if precendent exists for it being a banned substance then it's questionable how they've been cleared on the basis of its status being unclear.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by guruof track
              Originally posted by justblaze1011
              http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1225760382841

              Read the second paragraph :shock: [/url]

              WOW!!!!!!!

              Talk about Bush league.................but again this should NOT surprise anyone. We HAVE seen this lack of competency before with the agency.
              Another B-sample issue.....sounds all too familiar to me.

              "Methylhexaneamine was patented in 2005 by Illinois chemist and bodybuilder Patrick Arnold, who is best known for creating the designer steroids at the heart of the BALCO scandal which landed Sydney Olympic sprint queen Marion Jones in prison.

              Under the World Anti-Doping Agency Code (article 10.2), the offence for this drug is a two-year ban, a penalty which may be reduced if there was no intent to gain a performance advantage" - From the article

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              • #52
                Originally posted by scratchman
                Originally posted by Taliban
                Originally posted by scratchman
                The thing is, whatever they took, they know it was helping them.
                And I'm quite sure they knew it wasnt on the banned list.
                5 people with the same thing in their systems? All track athletes? All from the same club?
                .... :roll: C'mon now.
                I thought the point of taking supplements was to help you?
                And I thought it was the athletes responsibility to know which ones had substances that were banned in them.
                But the substance isn't banned....
                Afrikan

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Taliban
                  But the substance isn't banned....
                  The steroid used in the Balco case was also not banned, per se. However, there is a broad clause about related substances. Having come from Arnold, this does not have the makings of a minor, non-related drug but of a substance developed specifically to circumvent testing and/or the letter of the law.

                  However, there is too much that is still unknown. If I were Jamaica I would not run any of these athletes on a relay that they think that they will medal in.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by justblaze1011
                    "Methylhexaneamine was patented in 2005 by Illinois chemist and bodybuilder Patrick Arnold, who is best known for creating the designer steroids at the heart of the BALCO scandal which landed Sydney Olympic sprint queen Marion Jones in prison.
                    The journalist got that way, way wrong.

                    First patented in 1944 by Eli Lilly Reference

                    Arnold and Methylhexaneamine

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by El Toro
                      Originally posted by justblaze1011
                      "Methylhexaneamine was patented in 2005 by Illinois chemist and bodybuilder Patrick Arnold, who is best known for creating the designer steroids at the heart of the BALCO scandal which landed Sydney Olympic sprint queen Marion Jones in prison.
                      The journalist got that way, way wrong.

                      First patented in 1944 by Eli Lilly Reference

                      Arnold and Methylhexaneamine
                      Way Way wrong purposely maybe

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