¶'09 WC mSP: Christian Cantwell 72-3½ (22.03) WL

[NormZylstra]

Dan Taylor

Dan Taylor out of the final!

Honestly, I don't think it's that big an upset. Not a big championship performer, to put it mildly.

Last Sept Taylor was 3rd in Stuttgart at the World Athletics Final (4th in 2005 and 2006) if that counts as a championship meet. This season he's had one big throw at a small meet in the states and major fouling issues while in the Europe.

Can anyone confirm his fouls were foot fouls in the back of the ring at the beginning of the throw? Rumor is he's been scraping the top of the ring with his new start .... something rarely called in the States but usually, and correctly, called in Europe. If so, I hope his new coaches at the John Godina World Throws Center can sort this out.

[Powell]

Re: Dan Taylor

Dan Taylor out of the final!

Honestly, I don't think it's that big an upset. Not a big championship performer, to put it mildly.

Last Sept Taylor was 3rd in Stuttgart at the World Athletics Final (4th in 2005 and 2006) if that counts as a championship meet.

Frankly, no, I don't it does. And even if it did, 20.38 wasn't exactly a great result, even if it gave him a podium finish.

In his only prior major int'l championship showing, he went out in qualifying in Osaka with an embarassing 18.45. And he's never traveled particularly well. Out of his career top 10 results, only 2 came outside the US, and both of them are from 2006. This year, he was over 21 meters in all his US competitions, but his European campaign so far consisted of 20.76 in London, 19.91 in Barcelona and now 19.39.

If he were Russian, we'd now be getting comments similar to those on Alekhina, about how fake all those results achieved in home country are.

[gh]

Taylor was pretty honest in his assessment:

<<The first throw was great. It was well over qualifying, but I guess I fouled it on the front. It went all downhill from there. The same thing happened at my first worlds.>>

[unclezadok]

Taylor was pretty honest in his assessment:

<<The first throw was great. It was well over qualifying, but I guess I fouled it on the front. It went all downhill from there. The same thing happened at my first worlds.>>

I believe the last good big meet performer for the US was Randy Matson.

[Powell]

<<The first throw was great. It was well over qualifying, but I guess I fouled it on the front. It went all downhill from there. The same thing happened at my first worlds.>>

It sounds like a major psychological issue to me. An athlete who basically gives up after a disappointing first-round throw is never going to win major titles.

[imaginative]

I believe the last good big meet performer for the US was Randy Matson.

A case could be made for Godina, even if he missed the
OG gold.

[bman]

It sounds like a major psychological issue to me. An athlete who basically gives up after a disappointing first-round throw is never going to win major titles.

Still the big 3 in my opinion.

[dj]

Miroslav Vodovnik SLO
19.60-3, 9-19.50-9, 10-20.50-6,
Andrei Mikhnevich BLR
20.34-5, 7-20.31-7, 8-20.62-6
Pavel Lyzhyn BLR
f, x-20.98-5, 5-if-5,
Reese Hoffa USA
21.02-2, 4-f-4, 4-20.95-4,
Adam Nelson USA
21.11-3, 3-20.93-3, 3-f (c22.00)-3
Tomasz Majewski POL
21.36-2, 2-21.19-2, 2-20.80-2
Ralf Bartels GER
20.35-5, 6-20.18-6, 7-21.37-2
Christian Cantwell USA
21.54-1, 1-20.72-1, 1-21.03-1,

9, Hamza Alic BIH 20.00
20.00-3, 7-f-7, 9-19.80-7
10, Pavel Sofin RUS 19.89
19.89-6, 8-19.69-8, 10-19.85-10
11, Carl Myerscough GBR 18.42
18.42-8, 11-f-11, 11-f-11,
nm, Peter Sack GER
f, x-f, x-f-nm

[eldrick]

update please

[dj]

update please

check the ongoing chart immediately above your post.

[Powell]

Adam Nelson USA
21.11-3, 3-20.93-3, 3-f (c22.00)-3

It was NOT 22.00. Perhaps 21.60-21.70.

[croflash]

Bartels 21.37

[dj]

Miroslav Vodovnik SLO
19.60-3, 9-19.50-9, 10-20.50-6, 8-f-8, 8-19.82-8
Andrei Mikhnevich BLR
20.34-5, 7-20.31-7, 8-20.62-6, 7-20.74-7, 7-20.54-7
Pavel Lyzhyn BLR
f, x-20.98-5, 5-if-5, 6-if-6, 6-f-6,
Reese Hoffa USA
21.02-2, 4-f-4, 4-20.95-4, 5-21.14-4, 4-20.97-4
Adam Nelson USA
21.11-3, 3-20.93-3, 3-f (c21.70)-3, 5-f-5, 5-f-5,
Tomasz Majewski POL
21.36-2, 2-21.19-2, 2-20.80-2, 3-21.68-1, 1-21.91-1
Ralf Bartels GER
20.35-5, 6-20.18-6, 7-21.37-2, 3-20.80-3, 3-20.94-3
Christian Cantwell USA
21.54-1, 1-20.72-1, 1-21.03-1, 2-21.21-2, 2-22.03-1

9, Hamza Alic BIH 20.00
20.00-3, 7-f-7, 9-19.80-7
10, Pavel Sofin RUS 19.89
19.89-6, 8-19.69-8, 10-19.85-10
11, Carl Myerscough GBR 18.42
18.42-8, 11-f-11, 11-f-11,
nm, Peter Sack GER
f, x-f, x-f-nm

[croflash]

Majewski takes the lead, 21.68m.

[knockout]

Tomasz takes the lead.. Nelson fouls again..