¶'09 WC w1500: Maryam Jamal (Bahrain) 4:03.74

[jeremyp]

Weirdness abounds... for the last few hours I was lamenting the fact that Rowbury had not made it through, then mere minutes ago, the results site show this!! I can only guess that the USATF appealed about a mishap and eventually won their case as Rowbury now has q next to her name. Interesting.

Happy days are here again!!! :lol: I picked Jepkosgei for a medal, she fell, was reinstated. Picked Rowbury for medal........Wish they'd done same for Ryun in 1972!

[jeremyp]

Question??? If someone falls and is reinstated, doesn't somebody have to be DQ'd?

[3a]

Weirdness abounds... for the last few hours I was lamenting the fact that Rowbury had not made it through, then mere minutes ago, the results site show this!! I can only guess that the USATF appealed about a mishap and eventually won their case as Rowbury now has q next to her name. Interesting.

Happy days are here again!!! :lol: I picked Jepkosgei for a medal, she fell, was reinstated. Picked Rowbury for medal........Wish they'd done same for Ryun in 1972!

Thomas fought hard to stand up, lost her shoe and barely missed out on auto Q. Obviously the IAAF are giving the message that if anyone remotely clips you, you should fall down and guarantee a by into the next round. DISGRACE. There have been how many world champs so far? And I can't recall anyone ever getting a by unless they were completely shoved off the track. It's the nature of the beast. I'm livid with so many decisions that have been made at these champs. The IAAF need to hire some professionals.

[The Captain]

It's bad enough seeing Dehiba racing again without reinstating her when she falls over.

[lalala]

How the hell is Rowbury back in and Thomas isn't ? Tell me Team GB protested...

That's OUTRAGEOUS! Rowbury (whether or not she was at fault herself) caused Thomas to trip and lose her shoe

All this reinstatement nonsense is really p1ssing me off...

[jjimbojames]

Think Charlene Thomas is gonna be feeling pretty pissed with UKA - didn't even try and protest!

I too think that trips, falls and shoving etc are part of MD running, but given that they keep reinstating people, it was worth a try

[The Captain]

Depends if her foot made contact with anything. If not, then the fault is hers for not tying her laces properly!

[gh]

1500 Metres - W HEATS
first 6 of each heat (Q) plus the 6 fastest times (q) qualified.

Heat 118 August 2009 - 12:05
Position Bib Athlete Country Mark
1 184 Maryam Yusuf Jamal BRN 4:08.76 Q
2 305 Nuria Fernández ESP 4:08.79 Q
3 321 Meskerem Assefa ETH 4:08.86 Q
4 630 Mariem Alaoui Selsouli MAR 4:08.86 Q
5 937 Iryna Lishchynska UKR 4:08.95 Q
6 623 Irina Krakoviak LTU 4:08.96 Q
7 591 Viola Jelagat Kibiwot KEN 4:09.18 q
8 706 Lidia Chojecka POL 4:09.38 q
9 838 Oksana Zbrozhek RUS 4:09.84
10 407 Charlene Thomas GBR 4:09.91
11 1023 Shannon Rowbury USA 4:10.30 q
12 863 Marina Muncan SRB 4:15.18
13 629 Eliane Saholinirina MAD 4:16.63
14 250 Eva Pereira CPV 5:04.95 (PB)

INTERMEDIATE BIB ATHLETE NAT MARK
400m 838 Oksana Zbrozhek RUS 1:08.69
800m 838 Oksana Zbrozhek RUS 2:17.52
1200m 305 Nuria Fernández ESP 3:22.37
Heat 218 August 2009 - 12:14
Position Bib Athlete Country Mark
1 326 Gelete Burka ETH 4:07.75 Q
2 312 Natalia Rodríguez ESP 4:07.84 Q
3 385 Lisa Dobriskey GBR 4:07.90 Q
4 788 Natalya Evdokimova RUS 4:08.06 Q
5 1038 Anna Willard USA 4:08.13 Q
6 634 Btissam Lakhouad MAR 4:08.21 Q
7 183 Mimi Belete BRN 4:08.36 q
8 695 Nikki Hamblin NZL 4:09.60 q
9 350 Hind Déhiba Chahyd FRA 4:11.41 q
10 952 Tamara Tverdostup UKR 4:13.36
11 922 Alemitu Bekele TUR 4:13.69 (SB)
12 664 Susan Kuijken NED 4:18.10
13 587 Irene Jelagat KEN 4:27.36
14 662 Aldy Villalobos NCA 4:50.55 (PB)

INTERMEDIATE BIB ATHLETE NAT MARK
400m 788 Natalya Evdokimova RUS 1:07.42
800m 326 Gelete Burka ETH 2:16.81
1200m 326 Gelete Burka ETH 3:21.57

Heat 318 August 2009 - 12:23
Position Bib Athlete Country Mark
1 776 Anna Alminova RUS 4:08.13 Q
2 597 Nancy Jebet Langat KEN 4:08.16 Q
3 331 Kalkidan Gezahegne ETH 4:08.23 Q
4 1041 Christin Wurth-Thomas USA 4:08.23 Q
5 710 Sylwia Ejdys POL 4:08.59 Q
6 857 Sonja Roman SLO 4:08.65 Q
7 941 Anna Mishchenko UKR 4:09.26 q
8 307 Iris Fuentes-Pila ESP 4:09.71 q
9 663 Adrienne Herzog NED 4:10.10
10 633 Siham Hilali MAR 4:10.57
11 490 Deirdre Byrne IRL 4:12.19
12 408 Stephanie Twell GBR 4:18.23
13 655 Sladjana Pejovic MNE 4:28.67
14 238 Francine Nzilampa COD 4:30.56 (NR)

INTERMEDIATE BIB ATHLETE NAT MARK
400m 1041 Christin Wurth-Thomas USA 1:10.05
800m 1041 Christin Wurth-Thomas USA 2:18.40
1200m 1041 Christin Wurth-Thomas USA 3:21.29

[3a]

Depends if her foot made contact with anything. If not, then the fault is hers for not tying her laces properly!

Eh, her foot made contact with the body that fell on her feet, the body that she stumbled over and barely stayed up right, the body she should have fallen down over and claimed an automatic by. :roll:

[cacique]

Question??? If someone falls and is reinstated, doesn't somebody have to be DQ'd?

no, they just have an extra runner. did you watch the women's 800 semis? there were 9 runners in one semi (IIRC, jepkosgei and clark had to share a lane).

[jeremyp]

Question??? If someone falls and is reinstated, doesn't somebody have to be DQ'd?

no, they just have an extra runner. did you watch the women's 800 semis? there were 9 runners in one semi (IIRC, jepkosgei and clark had to share a lane).

What I meant was: if someone is reinstated isn't that due to someone's foul!

[cacique]

was it in this thread or another -- someone was commenting on this. it seems IAAF is basically washing their hands of the whole thing -- they are advancing people but not DQ anyone for these collisions/falls.

[cacique]

jeremy, check the women's 800 thread. here's one of the posts:

I find the whole reinstatement of Jepkosgei somewhat bizarre. In my understanding, in a situation like this the jury of appeal would normally have two choices:

- decide Semenya was to blame for the fall - in this case she should have been DQed, and Jepkosgei would be advanced to the semis
- say there was outside interference - which meant Jepkosgei herself was to blame for the fall, with no reinstatement

I cannot think of any line of reasoning which would lead them to advance Jepkosgei, but not DQ Semenya. It appears they simply didn't have the balls to eliminate either of the medal contenders from the semis.

another one:

Why Jepkosgei was reinstated and the other athlete who fall (athlete from New Zealand) without any guilty was not? I cannot understand IAAF judgements, it seems the rules are not the same for every countries. 10K female was another example, it is obvious that several athletes should be disqualified, there are a lot of examples in past on athletes were disqualified for things like that.

[K.I.R.]

Fellas, fellas
Don't worry about drugs, don't worry about people getting DQ'd
Hell, don't worry about the rules at all!
Relax, have some Kool Aid!

Shiny happy people holding hands, etc.

[rgjp]

Here is the official statement by the IAAF on Rowbury's fall:

"Referee Decision – 1500m WOMEN Heat 1

An incident occurred in Heat 1 of the 1500m Women, involving USA athlete Shannon ROWBURY (bib number 1023) and Ethiopian athlete Meskerem ASSEFA (bib number 321). The Referee, after examining the video of the race, concluded that US athletes Shannon Rowbury had been disadvantaged by the incident, and would be allowed to proceed to the next round. Ethiopian athlete Meskerem Assefa, who was qualified by right, will also proceed to the next round, as the incident was not her fault."

My understanding of the rules has to do with whether or not an athlete is unfairly disadvantaged by the incident. From what I have heard, Assefa was in the lane next to Rowbury and cut in front of her when there wasn't room enough for her to cut in. This action resulted in Assefa's leg clipping Rowbury's leg and basically forcing Rowbury's leg right out from under her. She had no time to react or avoid the fall.

The British athletic association chose NOT to file a protest on behalf of Thomas' lost shoe incident. Any concerns that people on this board have about Thomas should be taken up with them.

To those of you who are throwing out ridiculous accusations that Rowbury fell on purpose to advance - You are really callous, nasty people and I hope some day a similarly devastating thing happens to you in one of the biggest moments of your life.