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nony, I understand that, but in fairness to Francis comments with respect to cleaning up the sport in Jamaica, that woudn't have anything to do with being bitter.
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Wow...Franno put the dirty laundry out in the open.
This is a recipe for disaster for JAA.
Once dissention creeps in then people start turning on each other and dropping names and specifics.
That's what happened with Balco.
The tone makes it sound like drugs are a serious problem in the sport in JA.
Let's all hope this isnt true especially after all the success they've had the last two years.
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Well, there is a long-standing beef between Francis and JAAA exec Donald Quarrie. I'm not entirely sure how the problem has started, but they don't agree on a lot. Francis has always felt that Quarrie influences the JAAA to make things uncomfortable for him.
Politics of course.
But JAAA is in charge. I don't care how good Francis is, he still has to follow the rules set forth by the JAAA if he wants his athletes to compete. Francis is not bigger than Jamaica, but not matter how logical his reasons may seem to some of you, he needs to get in line. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by SpeedfirstOriginally posted by nonyOriginally posted by guruof trackhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/html/20090820T020000-0500_157893_OBS_FRANCIS_BLASTS_JAAA.asp
Stephen Francis own words:
“It doesn’t look good for you to be victimising these athletes while the ones who took the drugs are running around and their coaches and so on being supported by the JAAA," Francis added.
“It is stink all over the world and the JAAA needs to understand that what they
should be doing is trying to find out how to get the sport in Jamaica drug free.”
Francis can help the JAAA tremendously by putting all his athletes on the hot seats and let them show the world that they are drug free and all the braces worn by the top females are just a mere coincidence of getting fast overnight.
Francis is a bitter man,great coach though.
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I don't see how the bitter comment is relevant either. The man has coached the MOST gold medals in Jamaica in this meet. So why would he be bitter. Seems like a level-headed comment to me. Unless he is just jealous of Glen Mills.
You guys make it seem like his statements are just out-rights lies and have bearings. I think that he hits on some interesting points.
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Originally posted by nonyOriginally posted by guruof trackhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/html/20090820T020000-0500_157893_OBS_FRANCIS_BLASTS_JAAA.asp
Stephen Francis own words:
“It doesn’t look good for you to be victimising these athletes while the ones who took the drugs are running around and their coaches and so on being supported by the JAAA," Francis added.
“It is stink all over the world and the JAAA needs to understand that what they
should be doing is trying to find out how to get the sport in Jamaica drug free.”
Francis can help the JAAA tremendously by putting all his athletes on the hot seats and let them show the world that they are drug free and all the braces worn by the top females are just a mere coincidence of getting fast overnight.
Francis is a bitter man,great coach though.
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I'm dumbfounded by the clear accusations he made. Imagine if John Smith said that. :shock:
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Originally posted by nonyOriginally posted by guruof trackhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/html/20090820T020000-0500_157893_OBS_FRANCIS_BLASTS_JAAA.asp
Stephen Francis own words:
“It doesn’t look good for you to be victimising these athletes while the ones who took the drugs are running around and their coaches and so on being supported by the JAAA," Francis added.
“It is stink all over the world and the JAAA needs to understand that what they
should be doing is trying to find out how to get the sport in Jamaica drug free.”
Francis can help the JAAA tremendously by putting all his athletes on the hot seats and let them show the world that they are drug free and all the braces worn by the top females are just a mere coincidence of getting fast overnight.
Francis is a bitter man,great coach though.
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Originally posted by guruof trackhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/html/20090820T020000-0500_157893_OBS_FRANCIS_BLASTS_JAAA.asp
Stephen Francis own words:
“It doesn’t look good for you to be victimising these athletes while the ones who took the drugs are running around and their coaches and so on being supported by the JAAA," Francis added.
“It is stink all over the world and the JAAA needs to understand that what they
should be doing is trying to find out how to get the sport in Jamaica drug free.”
Francis can help the JAAA tremendously by putting all his athletes on the hot seats and let them show the world that they are drug free and all the braces worn by the top females are just a mere coincidence of getting fast overnight.
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Originally posted by guruof trackhttp://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/html/20090820T020000-0500_157893_OBS_FRANCIS_BLASTS_JAAA.asp
Stephen Francis own words:
“It doesn’t look good for you to be victimising these athletes while the ones who took the drugs are running around and their coaches and so on being supported by the JAAA," Francis added.
“It is stink all over the world and the JAAA needs to understand that what they
should be doing is trying to find out how to get the sport in Jamaica drug free.”
Francis can help the JAAA tremendously by putting all his athletes on the hot seats and let them show the world that they are drug free and all the braces worn by the top females are just a mere coincidence of getting fast overnight.
Francis is a bitter man,great coach though.
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Originally posted by TrainerPhilOriginally posted by RamGoatYou guys need to take this to another thread.. severely off topic.. I don't even know what you two are talking about.. :lol: who cares.
In all honesty, you guys really need to continue this conversation on another thread.
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Originally posted by RamGoatYou guys need to take this to another thread.. severely off topic.. I don't even know what you two are talking about.. :lol: who cares.
In all honesty, you guys really need to continue this conversation on another thread.
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Originally posted by eldrickOriginally posted by track_expertPJ himself stated in the thread at the CF boards about Tyson not doing speed work... in fact... Tyson ran a new personal best in 120m before running that 19.58!
as for this 120m pb
where is your gaurantee that
- it was accurately HT'ed ?
- it wasn't run with benefit of a +5m/s wind
you haven't been very long in this game if you take 2nd hand info as gospel
Take your conceps elsewhere
you are the one offering little
heed your own advice
[quote:b02s9rhn]What established coaches? Drummond? You consider him a established coach? No one says no scientific guys etc, but i can almost guarantee that if you handed Bolt over to one your scientific buddies, Bolt would NOT be running any faster than a 9.8 the following season.
most definitely, a different start coach & perhaps one with more scientific knowledge wouda had a shot at getting him closer to 6.40
The interview was from the winter of 08, thats essentially how their GPP looked like. If you are saying other wise.. then Franno is a liar and lied in the interview?
i wanted programme from late '06/early '07 NOT from late '08 ( as in '09 off that he has run nowhere close to his pb )
the coaching programme may have been changed in meantime depending on safa's physical condition/wishes
What evidence do you have he tried to peak for Zurich? I would like to see it right now. And the fact he ran a 9.77 earlier on a slower track in gateshead as well as a heavy weights session, that run was DEFINITELY impressive equally and the same.
in non-championship years, zurich is the unofficial world championship of the year
if he didn't try to peak for it - provide proof
as for gateshead being a slow track, you clearly are ignorant of the issues
there was a long discussion here about it & conclusion was it was considered a slow track because it invariably had poor weather & no wr holders running in a small meet
recently more money was provided for meet, bigger names attracted & they got good weather for once
conclusion : track is fast but never given opportunity to show it before
And learn to understand the concepts behind his late peaking...
1) Runs his best after a series of races (mainly being 18)
2) Gets injured too much and doesnt get in the required high int. work
3) Doesnt get in the fast races needed
what difference does it make if he ran 2 races or 5 in april when it comes around to august & this 18 ?
does his muscle memory remember if he did 2 or 5 races over 3/12 before ?
3) please remove this - it's laughable
if he can't get in fast races as the then wr holder, who on earth can ???
In other words, the required stimulus has lacked before the 07 and 08 championships. Why else would he never run faster than a 9.9 in a championship?
can you suggest any other reasons he doesn't run faster than 9.9 in a champs ???
His aim IS!! to peak then, but your body is not a robot and will not simply listen to you telling it to peak. The championships in 07/08 served as what he needed to finish it off and peak
find one respected poster here who agrees with this & i'll stop laughing
Learn to understand what i say, and what supercompensation is, then you will know how he missed his peak twice and peaked later than required thus ran the times he did.
And what you say about Tyson's weight... DO YOU talk to Tyson daily? Do you check him on a scale? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to say someone would run a 9.65 had he not gained any weight when you yourself do not know if Tyson gained any weight at all?
if you are ignorant of these that is not my problem - you can go learn them
And him doing little training, once again ridiculous. The effect of not training showed for him last year when he f*cked up the olympics... this year he ran a 9.71, supposedly doing little speed work and little training... :roll: im sure... after running 800/1500m workouts. :wink:
last year he was sprawled on the track in trials 200 with it - it was a season ending injury under normal circmustances but he had to keep trying - with no training for weeks after
this year his injury is less severe, allowing him to train & race, but nowhere as devastating as last year[/quote:b02s9rhn]
You dont trust PJ? Do you trust Drummond then?
http://charliefrancis.com/community/sho ... ostcount=2
Drummond had told PJ this, I see you're calling your "friend" and Drummond liars.
And it doesnt matter if its HTed, where else would his 120 pb come from in the past? They're smart enough to know if its a pb and its HT therefore the past times ran were HTed.
And if its wind aided, so what? you're still getting the benefit of increased velocity and thus a better neural imprint.
Sorry I made a mistake, I mean PRE 2008 season, last year not this year. And last year he ran his 9.72?
Gateshead is a polytan surface, the same surface installed at U of T in toronto where Bolt ran the 10.0, if you are saying its a fast track... go learn about the surfaces.
Franno has said in the past he doesnt believe in a proper taper, and given his heavy racing schedule, do you mind explaining how he would go about peaking in zurich?
On top of that, I also know Franno said he only tries to peaks for major championships and nothing else.
His race pattern and peaking after a certain number of races is not non sense. You clearly do not understand what stimulus is and the required stimulus needed from races for asafa is much more than Tyson for example. The adaptation process is longer.
Im not saying powell should destroy himself however you clearly dont understand peaking. Until the different components :acceleration, max.V, SE havent been fully maximized, the volume hasnt dropped and the muscle tone isnt correct, one cant simply peak because its a champonship.
Powell never ran faster than a 9.9 and never showed 9.7 form (except it was a good possibility this year had it not been for his groin) because he hadnt peaked properly.
Powell's SE did not ever look maximized and nor did his Max.V in previous championships, but further on that... he hadnt gotten in the required stimulus from races. Hard to understand?
And would you not agree getting injured and NOT getting in the planned speed work does set you back a bit? IF its the same as not being injured, why even bother doing the extra speed work? Take it easy and you'll peak the same correct?
Your friend PJ and Charlie Francis both agree, in fact Charlie has gone on many times about this.
And what you say about Powell killing himself then freshening up, in fact that is how it would work... powell's agent noted a heavy training block during the time he ran in london, good evidence he was going through a heavy regime before freshening up and looking good for Berlin.
Many many sprinters have noted, such as Ben Johnson in the past, that after a heavy racing schedule, they have run personal bests or reached higher speeds, etc.
And as for Tyson's weight, once again you have NO evidence of what he did. You dont know what his training was and the food he ate, you're simply assuming he sat on a chair eating big macs.
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