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  • Originally posted by lexvid
    Originally posted by Daisy
    Originally posted by lexvid
    I guess I'm to simplistic in my thinking but don't you put the fastest person as your anchor on the relay team?
    I have always thought the second leg is the best for your fastest, unless they are crap at passing the baton.
    Thanks Daisy and that maybe ideal but how many recent winning Championship Relay Teams operated this way?
    Almost none? I've wondered about that, and I have always assumed that the ego of the star sprinter precludes such a move.

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    • Originally posted by Daisy
      Originally posted by lexvid
      Originally posted by Daisy
      Originally posted by lexvid
      I guess I'm to simplistic in my thinking but don't you put the fastest person as your anchor on the relay team?
      I have always thought the second leg is the best for your fastest, unless they are crap at passing the baton.
      Thanks Daisy and that maybe ideal but how many recent winning Championship Relay Teams operated this way?
      Almost none? I've wondered about that, and I have always assumed that the ego of the star sprinter precludes such a move.
      Agreed. I here there may be an opening for Head Relay Coach for JAM or USA Teams. Would you like to apply? :lol:

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      • Originally posted by lexvid
        Would you like to apply? :lol:
        Sure, I don't think I could do too badly, it's not like they are allowed to make any decisions :twisted:

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        • [quote=guruof track]
          Originally posted by lexvid
          Originally posted by "guruof track":23tzgfyn
          I don't think it was catering to her ESPECIALLY when all you had her practice was the anchor leg. Telling her in the 11th hour that she is going trun a leg she hasnt ran since 2000, is unreasonable, don't you think. Considering she DID follow the rules.
          I get that Guru and I agree but this year she is no longer the fastest straight runner. And I don't mean just catering to her since the JAM pre-Berlin camp appeared to be a huge clash of egos that could have been uglier than it was.

          ...
          She wasn't the fastest straight runner last year either. In fact they had THREE girls faster than her last year.

          But point well taken.[/quote:23tzgfyn]

          I didn't agree with last year line up either... We all saw what happened on 2nd to 3rd there.

          And last year there could be a viable argument of putting her on anchor:
          1) she had that amazing top end that she seems lacking this year
          2) the only person who could be placed on anchor instead of her had doubled and she didn't so she was clearly fresher and therefore would probably be faster.
          3) Her season best was 10.87 and the SB of the persons that beat her were 10.87, 10.85 and 10.80 (at the time they had been practicing relays) not that large a margin (especially after number 2).
          4) She was in the best shape of her life as could be vindicated by her 21.74 PB in the 200 and her teetering ever so closely to her 100m PB.

          This year (due to injuries of course) her SB is 10.94 and 22.29. KS is almost a whole 0.20 seconds faster than her and this is due MAINLY to superior top end. VCB didn't have that top end overdrive that she seemed to possess before. Kerron was not doubling and she was.

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          • GDR Canberra 1985 (TV-Analysis) vs. JAMAICA Berlin 2009 SF/FIN

            11.13-11.58-12.00
            10.14-10.26-10.34
            10.40-10.52-10.42
            10.02-9.94-9.83
            Change Effectivity 0.32-0.42-0.53
            Relay Time 41.37-41.88-42.06

            Obvious conclusion: it takes four to get the baton round to paraphrase MJ.

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            • Originally posted by Frans Rutten
              GDR Canberra 1985 (TV-Analysis) vs. JAMAICA Berlin 2009 SF/FIN

              11.13-11.58-12.00
              10.14-10.26-10.34
              10.40-10.52-10.42
              10.02-9.94-9.83
              Change Effectivity 0.32-0.42-0.53
              Relay Time 41.37-41.88-42.06

              Obvious conclusion: it takes four to get the baton round to paraphrase MJ.
              wow the start wasnt soo good.. kerron was impresive 9.83.. do we have any comparisons that can be made eg jeter or vcb ?

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              • now that 12.00 can't be right. Ok she starts from the blocks and runs a curve, but still!
                Exactly how did you extrapolate that figure?

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                • Originally posted by trackfan22
                  Originally posted by Frans Rutten
                  GDR Canberra 1985 (TV-Analysis) vs. JAMAICA Berlin 2009 SF/FIN

                  11.13-11.58-12.00
                  10.14-10.26-10.34
                  10.40-10.52-10.42
                  10.02-9.94-9.83
                  Change Effectivity 0.32-0.42-0.53
                  Relay Time 41.37-41.88-42.06

                  Obvious conclusion: it takes four to get the baton round to paraphrase MJ.
                  wow the start wasnt soo good.. kerron was impresive 9.83.. do we have any comparisons that can be made eg jeter or vcb ?
                  Not of Jeter.

                  Osaka 2007 TV-Analyse by www.fgs.uni-halle.de

                  USA (L. Williams, Felix, Barber and Edwards) 41,98
                  11.50-10.15-10.49-10.15 change effectivity 0.31

                  JAMAICA (Brooks, Stewart, Facey and VCB) 42,01
                  11.62-10.21-10.78-10.04 change effectivity 0.64

                  Anchor runs Stuttgart 1993: Privalova 9.89, Devers 9.86

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                  • Originally posted by midnightsun
                    now that 12.00 can't be right. Ok she starts from the blocks and runs a curve, but still!
                    Exactly how did you extrapolate that figure?
                    It's not mine. It's from the Biomechanical Research Team. File is on their website www.fgs.uni-halle.de.

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                    • Looking at the analysis above, you can see how Gladisch-Moller's fantastic first leg sett he GDR up. Their baton changing was also great, they pushed the exchanges to the max (Aueswald to Gohr right on the edge of the zone..) but their experience through practice meant they could exchange at full throttle. To think that Sabine Gunther ran a faster 100m split than Fraser, Felix & Stewart! Aueswald was also a great bend runner, if you look at the Seoul splits Flo Jo wasn't much faster than her.

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                      • cool, nice link Frans!

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