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  • jpaule
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    [quote=t_monk]
    Originally posted by "guruof track":7oknzkbm
    Originally posted by toyracer


    Asafa Powell has a very very very bad history with curves, if I see him running a curve I seriously worry.
    [/quote:7oknzkbm]

    Mr. Powell also has a very bad history with the 100m . Just ask the meet promoters who have paid him big bucks to run - only to have him dog it Now that he is no longer a threat to break the WR in 100m, his market value has gone way down. Mr. Powell needs to focus on the 100 and trying to maintain his position as 3rd best 100m man in the world - which isn't a bad place to be.

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  • t_monk
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    Originally posted by guruof track
    Originally posted by toyracer

    As of right now in 2009 only five men have posted faster times than Asafa's PB of 19.90 and I'm pretty sure that he could be quicker than that it he really tried. However, given the problems he is having with his left groin, left ankle and past left hamstring injury I don't think we will see him doing anything strenuous that involves a curve.
    That PR is from when??? How many people have posted faster times since he ran that 19.90 is a fairer assessment. Because he has ran 200 AFTER that 19.90.
    The last 200m he ran was in 2007, Shanghai in a -0.30 wind and he ran 20.00. That was his only 200m for the season. As for the 19.90 PR set in 2006 in Kingston I believe... that was also the only one he ran that season that he completed.

    Asafa Powell has a very very very bad history with curves, if I see him running a curve I seriously worry.

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  • TrackDaddy
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    Originally posted by jeremyp
    Except in the event he allows a 5k to go at 13.30 speed and doesn't run the penultimate lap in 59-60. Then Lagat might beat him, ala Guerrouj in Athens.
    I think Lagat ran the PERFECT race for himself and still lost. Any other scenario and Lagat loses by more.
    I thought he kicked too soon.

    Had he timed it better I thought he would have won.

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  • DJ_Expanium
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    Originally posted by guruof track
    Originally posted by toyracer

    As of right now in 2009 only five men have posted faster times than Asafa's PB of 19.90 and I'm pretty sure that he could be quicker than that it he really tried. However, given the problems he is having with his left groin, left ankle and past left hamstring injury I don't think we will see him doing anything strenuous that involves a curve.
    That PR is from when??? How many people have posted faster times since he ran that 19.90 is a fairer assessment. Because he has ran 200 AFTER that 19.90.
    He ran 19.90 at Kingston, JAM 2006. I believe the 200m would make him stronger for 100m. But If he gets injured from the running the curve, then I understand why he doesn't.

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  • guruof track
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    Originally posted by toyracer

    As of right now in 2009 only five men have posted faster times than Asafa's PB of 19.90 and I'm pretty sure that he could be quicker than that it he really tried. However, given the problems he is having with his left groin, left ankle and past left hamstring injury I don't think we will see him doing anything strenuous that involves a curve.
    That PR is from when??? How many people have posted faster times since he ran that 19.90 is a fairer assessment. Because he has ran 200 AFTER that 19.90.

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by jeremyp
    Except in the event he allows a 5k to go at 13.30 speed and doesn't run the penultimate lap in 59-60. Then Lagat might beat him, ala Guerrouj in Athens.
    I think Lagat ran the PERFECT race for himself and still lost. Any other scenario and Lagat loses by more.

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  • toyracer
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    Originally posted by jpaule
    If SAF and KS are both injured, why are they running. The explosion out of the blocks is more likely to aggravate an injury than running a curve with a running start.
    SAF is running because she isn't affected on a straight (surgery, not an injury per say). Stewart is running with an eye on the Golden prize.

    Originally posted by guruof track
    Asafa has a groin injury. They have hammy injuries, unless I'm wrong.
    Asafa's issue with the 200m is related to both the groin and hamstring. His last competitive 200m was in Yokohama '07 and he pulled up after injuring his left hamstring.

    Originally posted by jpaule
    But as far as Asafa goes in the 200 a list of at least a dozen dudes (maybe more) who would smoke him. .
    As of right now in 2009 only five men have posted faster times than Asafa's PB of 19.90 and I'm pretty sure that he could be quicker than that it he really tried. However, given the problems he is having with his left groin, left ankle and past left hamstring injury I don't think we will see him doing anything strenuous that involves a curve.

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  • jeremyp
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    Originally posted by Marlow
    Originally posted by croflash
    Let's not forget that Kerron Stewart, Yelena Isinbaeva, Sanya Richards and Kenenisa Bekele are still in the race for the jackpot.
    KB is the only one who is a MORTAL LOCK to not lose. After seeing what he did to Lagat at the end of the 5K, there's no way ANYONE can beat him when he's fit. Speed kills. Speed AND endurance? The mind boggles. Even with no PRs, he's the WC co-MVP.
    Except in the event he allows a 5k to go at 13.30 speed and doesn't run the penultimate lap in 59-60. Then Lagat might beat him, ala Guerrouj in Athens.

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  • jamaicantrackfan
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    The big man Bolt arriving in Zurich

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  • jamaicantrackfan
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    Kerron is usually more consistent on the circuit and thus, I am expecting her to win.

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  • t_monk
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    Originally posted by jpaule
    Since KS and SAF are so severely injured, does poor little Carmelita Jeter have a change or dare I ask? Go Carmelita :!:

    PS - I'm going to make sure I watch and see how far and fast KS and SAF run around the curve after the race.
    lol.... feel free.

    Note: running on a curve while accelerating and running on a curve while decelerating are two very different things....

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  • jpaule
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    Since KS and SAF are so severely injured, does poor little Carmelita Jeter have a change or dare I ask? Go Carmelita :!:

    PS - I'm going to make sure I watch and see how far and fast KS and SAF run around the curve after the race.

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  • doug091463
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    and as a top competitor one should not one to fall down for them, if they did it would make it like a movie or pro wrestling with a predetermined outcome.

    an example of a top competitor turning down a large amount of money to maintain the integrity of the sport is in the sugar ray robinson story said to be true, gangsters allegedely came to robinson and told him, he could make a lot more money if he fought another top fighter, 1 fighter would win the first, the other fighter would win the second, and the 3rd fight would be a real fight that either could win, and robinson said i dont do it that way if i lose, its because i lost, and i dont want anyone to take a dive for me.

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  • doug091463
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    Originally posted by rabalac
    Originally posted by t_monk
    I really want Kerron to win.... I am pulling for her over SAF because I want her to get her jackpot money
    So what's a million dollars among friends? What if Kerron wins the 100? She will have one more to go to get that (at least a piece of the ) Million. What should SAF do if it were to come to that? Should she run and possibly "rob" the Jamaican economy of at least quarter million dollars by beating Kerron in the final race?

    By the way, have Dibaba and Defar mend fences since a similar situation occured a few years ago regarding the 2 Ethiopians who were/are friends?
    shelly-ann fraser should do like she does and like everyone should do, try to do their best. track really does not want a scandal of having fixed races.

    as for t. dibaba and defar, t. dibaba was sad she lost, but realized every competitor has the right to try to win, the not getting along was more fabricated by the media than being real, defar even was invited to and went to the dibaba and sihine wedding.

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  • t_monk
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    [quote=jpaule]
    Originally posted by t_monk
    Originally posted by jpaule
    Originally posted by "t_monk":22fb3mcb
    Originally posted by TrackDaddy
    Originally posted by jpaule
    If SAF and KS are both injured, why are they running. The explosion out of the blocks is more likely to aggravate an injury than running a curve with a running start.
    Bingo.

    Like I said politics dictated who ran which leg.
    It depends on the type of injury... again.
    T Monk, do you know what part of SAF's body was actually hurting during WCs from the appendectomy?
    Yes. It was specifically stated that it was her side, the side she had the operation on.
    I would think if her side is hurting it is irresponsible for anyone to allow her to run anything because of some possible serious internal problems. Has she had any testing at all to see what the problem is?[/quote:22fb3mcb]

    I am not sure, I am guessing she has however. I am guessing that the wound is simply healing and taking a long time to do so. I have known a number of persons who have had appendectomy and it normally takes a while to heal, it requires very LITTLE strenuous activity to heal completely and you can guess that SAF was pushed for time and was rushing to get herself back to tip top form to qualify. I am guessing the fact that she is running that its taking a longer time for it to heal 100%. It's understandable to me why the curve would agitate the injury more though...

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