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  • #16
    GH is making logical business sense here, but America gets what America wants, and if they Bolt..... "then scottie, make it so". Not far fetched.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gh
      Originally posted by scratchman
      Originally posted by gh
      Unfortunately, there's nobody to pay for such a race.
      Dont spoil our fun imagining this race! :evil: :lol:

      ...And why not??
      Powell runs at Penn each year, and so do the rest of them. Only person missing is Bolt.
      "only" Bolt is like saying only Kobe Bryant is missing from the Lakers.

      The key is in the feet; the international relays at Penn are a Nike operation. Not only would Bolt not have interest in being there, one suspects Nike would actively lobby for his not being there.
      First off- you oughta know I didnt mean like "ONLY" Bolt :roll:
      And second, are you saying just because Bolt(Puma) isnt with Nike, they'd prohibit him from being there? Why wouldnt Bolt wanna be there? His Jamaican teammates are. They doesnt make sense to me, so maybe you can help me out with that. They (the powers that be) can make anything they want happen. Stuff gets changed all the time in the interest of money. They changed the Oly schedule around in '96 so MJ could compete in 2 events.
      ...I dont see your point.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gh
        Unfortunately, there's nobody to pay for such a race.
        At Penn maybe.

        But, how about doing it at the proposed Jamaica versus USA meet next year?

        The athletes are going to be there anyway; something to think about.
        Regards,
        toyracer

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        • #19
          Originally posted by toyracer
          Originally posted by gh
          Unfortunately, there's nobody to pay for such a race.
          At Penn maybe.

          But, how about doing it at the proposed Jamaica versus USA meet next year?

          The athletes are going to be there anyway; something to think about.
          People tend to forget this when they ask for Logan's head.

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          • #20
            isnt the americans vs jamaicans next year they could squeeze in some 4 x200 .lol wishful thinking even the females 4x 200 sounds mouthwatering ... fraser to sherone to vcb to kerron... while for the US allyson to hooker to muna to lauryn williams

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            • #21
              Originally posted by toyracer
              Originally posted by gh
              Unfortunately, there's nobody to pay for such a race.
              At Penn maybe.

              But, how about doing it at the proposed Jamaica versus USA meet next year?

              The athletes are going to be there anyway; something to think about.
              when you say "the athletes" you're forgetting that some of the biggest names have already said NFW to a no-pay appearance (relatively speaking).

              The whole US/Jamaica thing remains pie in the sky. (sorry to inject the "facts not fiction" rubric into another conversation)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by trackfan22
                isnt the americans vs jamaicans next year they could squeeze in some 4 x200 .lol wishful thinking even the females 4x 200 sounds mouthwatering ... fraser to sherone to vcb to kerron... while for the US allyson to hooker to muna to lauryn williams
                Mouthwatering is right! :twisted:
                I had my first Penn experience this year, and it was the BEST time Id ever had.
                I cant tell you the adreneline I felt when the US men/women beat Jamaica in both relays. And that crowd :shock: . It was an absolute rush. The way a track meet should be.
                That said, can you imagine a USA vs. Jamaica Penn Relays????
                4X100 :shock:
                4X200 :shock:
                Sprint Medley :shock:
                4X400 :shock:

                And I'd toy with that 4X2 order a little:
                Lauryn to Hooker to MuMu to Allyson vs.
                Sherone to Fraser to Kerron to VC ...:shock:

                Then...
                4x1...
                Frater to Blake to Bolt to Powell vs.
                Dix to Rodgers to Gay to Spearmon
                4X2...
                Mullings to Powell to Blake to Bolt vs.
                Dix to Crawford to Spearmon to Gay :shock: :shock: :shock:
                Please God. Let it happen.

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                • #23
                  Believe it or not, despite Blake's sub 10s this year there are two other Ja. youngsters that are better than him over 200m: Ashmede and the season weary McKenzie. One more year to gel and we have consitent sub 20s from these two young bucks.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Paul Henry
                    Believe it or not, despite Blake's sub 10s this year there are two other Ja. youngsters that are better than him over 200m: Ashmede and the season weary McKenzie. One more year to gel and we have consitent sub 20s from these two young bucks.
                    Really??
                    Well toss 'em in.
                    I just figured since Blake had such great top end, he'd do well enough over 200 to be with those guys. I still do. I'd really like to see him do some 200's. And I think the crowd would be curious to see what he could produce. After all, they'd be doing it for kicks and attention anyway. Those other guys could make up another team along with Marvin Anderson. Boy, what a meet that'd be, huh?
                    If I were in a position, I'd so lobby for that to happen. 4X2's are rare. We dont get to see 'em often. And we surely dont get to see Bolt in the states often. The Jamaican constituency is HUUUUUUUUGE anyway at Penn. Imagine Bolt being there? Alas, thats why track sucks in the states. They dont know how to market it. Bolt is a household name now. They need to take advantage of it and get him here to our GrandDaddy meet- whatever the cost.

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                    • #25
                      jama only have 1 active <20 guy in bolt ( safa won't run 200s nowdays - fast ones at least )

                      the race woud be a mismatch

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                      • #26
                        [quote="eldrick"]jama only have 1 active <20 guy in bolt ( safa won't run 200s nowdays - fast ones at least )

                        the race woud be a mismatch[/quote
                        WHO CAME FOURTH at the world championships.. im sure if they make it lucrative next year asfa might runa onme off 200 ii/-u also have nester carter , marvin anderson and the 18yr old sensation "batman"

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                        • #27
                          What About a jamaican women 4x200m

                          Shelly-Ann - Kerron - Sherone - Veronica =at least 1:26 something

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by trackfan22
                            Originally posted by eldrick
                            jama only have 1 active <20 guy in bolt ( safa won't run 200s nowdays - fast ones at least )

                            the race woud be a mismatch[/quote
                            WHO CAME FOURTH at the world championships.. im sure if they make it lucrative next year asfa might runa onme off 200 ii/-u also have nester carter , marvin anderson and the 18yr old sensation "batman"
                            THANK YOU!!! :roll:
                            He's gotta be kidding if he thinks Powell "wont" run a 4x2 if the price is right. Hell, he runs 400's to open. And not only that, ANY country with the personnel Jam has now should go for and try to take down every relay record in the books while they have a chance. EGOOOOO is why track isnt where it needs to be in America. MJ wouldnt do it either. Ran all those 4X4's at Penn. They could really do some things with the emergence of Bolt- if they wanted to.
                            So much talent out there....So many chances to make money.
                            What a waste.

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                            • #29
                              safa will run 400s because he doesn't have to go all-out on the 2 curves - in a 200 he can't risk it, because 1 more groin explosion & his career is over

                              as for rest of team, even if safa risked a 19.9, you have :

                              19.1
                              19.9 ( safa )
                              19.9 ( mullins )
                              20.1 = 79s

                              against that you have americans with

                              19.5 - tyson
                              3 of 19.7/19.8 with zebra/dix & wally = 78.6 - 78.9s

                              it's closer than i 1st thought, but the 3 americans can repeat 19.7/19.8, mullings has only done 19.9 once

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by eldrick
                                safa will run 400s because he doesn't have to go all-out on the 2 curves - in a 200 he can't risk it, because 1 more groin explosion & his career is over

                                as for rest of team, even if safa risked a 19.9, you have :

                                19.1
                                19.9 ( safa )
                                19.9 ( mullins )
                                20.1 = 79s

                                against that you have americans with

                                19.5 - tyson
                                3 of 19.7/19.8 with zebra/dix & wally = 78.6 - 78.9s

                                it's closer than i 1st thought, but the 3 americans can repeat 19.7/19.8, mullings has only done 19.9 once
                                AND THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT AN EVENT LIKE THAT BEING A HUUUUUUUGE DRAW. The Americans have a shot at beating Jamaicas best in this race. People wanna see that, and would pay good money to do it. Theres so much at risk with batons in a quick relay like the 4x1. But theres actually time to make up for error in the 4x2. Its longer, so the anticipation of lead changes builds with every leg. TRUST ME. THIS WOULD BE SPECTACULAR!!!! ESPECIALLY AT PENN!!!

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