Wonder when the last time was that somebody went from No. 23 on the all-time U.S. list to the American Record holder?
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Ritz as an all-time improver to an AR
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Such stats can get a bit dodgy, of course, when you deal with people who move up or down in distance to an event that has always been in their wheelhouse but they just haven't tried it much/at all. Ritz, on the other hand, had a trio of sub-13:20 performances before this year. He was anything but unfamilair with the event.
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Rodgers had a faster time on the point to point Boston course.
Any idea if a US male 5000 meter runner has been so far down the all-time performers list when setting an AR?
Ritz was #43.
In comparison, Maree was ~#3 when he ran 13;01; Pre was #4 performer when he ran 13;22 at the '72 OT.
Not sure where MacDonald, Centrowitz, Salazar and Kennedy stood on the all-time performers list.
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Interesting. The writeup on Fredericks' 28:08.0 race (72 AAU) says that he was "a novice" at 10,000--it was his first effort at the distance... It also makes it sound as if he'd only run one serious 6m (28:23.8 at the '71 IC4A). He was a known quantity at 5000, however, with a very good 13:34 behind Pre at the NCAA.
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To suggest that Greg's 13:34.0 at the1972 NCAA was "very good" is an understatement.
AR progression at 5k.
13:22.8 Steve Prefontaine-3 09 Jul 1972 Eugene OR USA
13:29.6 Steve Prefontaine-2 29 Apr 1972 Eugene OR USA
13:30.4 Steve Prefontaine (OR) 03 Jul 1971 Berkeley CA USA
13:32.2 George Young (AZ) 15 May 1971 Bakersfield CA USA
13:33.8 Gerry Lindgren-2 25 May 1968 Modesto CA USA
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How about Lindgren's 12.53.0 3 mile in Seattle?....I think it was 1966....IF it had been a 5000m, he surely would had clocked under 13.20.
Just thought I throw that in.....If Ritz, Tegenkamp, Solinsky, Rupp et al keep improving, some of us may get to see another 1964 again.....a lot more difficult now than then, though.
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Re: Ritz as an all-time improver to an AR
Originally posted by ghWonder when the last time was that somebody went from No. 23 on the all-time U.S. list to the American Record holder?
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Re: Ritz as an all-time improver to an AR
Originally posted by malmoOriginally posted by ghWonder when the last time was that somebody went from No. 23 on the all-time U.S. list to the American Record holder?
I'm also curious about KevinM's question concerning Buerkle.
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