marathon men sub 2:10.00 and women sub 2:30 for 1997-2009, j

[doug091463]

# of men sub 2:10 and # of women sub 2:30 in japan, europe, ethiopia, kenya from 1997-2009.

european men
1997-12 men sub 2:10
1998-13
1999-11
2000-10
2001-10
2002-11
2003-14
2004-9
2005-7
2006-6
2007-3
2008-3
2009-2

big drop of the last 6 years for sub 2:10 european marathoners.

japan men sub 2:10
1997-4
1998-7
1999-6
2000-7
2001-7
2002-6
2003-13
2004-6
2005-10
2006-3
2007-2
2008-7
2009-1

kenyan men sub 2:10
1997-14
1998-13
1999-25
2000-9
2001-16
2002-28
2003-41
2004-23
2005-32
2006-32
2007-47
2008-56
2009-64

kenyan depth still going up.

ethiopia men sub 2:10
1997-2
1998-2
1999-3
2000-3
2001-3
2002-6
2003-4
2004-4
2005-4
2006-4
2007-6
2008-12
2009-27
note 10 ethiopian men sub 2:10 in 2010 as of january 24th 2010.

ethiopia depth is exploding.

european women sub 2:30
1997-21
1998-20
1999-24
2000-24
2001-30
2002-30
2003-38
2004-28
2005-29
2006-33
2007-23
2008-36
2009-27

european women still going great.

japan woman sub 2:30
1997-8
1998-13
1999-10
2000-16
2001-19
2002-19
2003-12
2004-17
2005-13
2006-15
2007-11
2008-18
2009-19

japan woman still as good as ever depth wise.

kenya women sub 2:30
1997-4
1998-3
1999-8
2000-9
2001-9
2002-10
2003-12
2004-10
2005-11
2006-12
2007-13
2008-14
2009-13

kenya woman staying the same in the marathon even though they are getting much better at 5k, 10k, and half marathon.

ethiopia women sub 2:30
1997-1
1998-1
1999-3
2000-4
2001-4
2002-6
2003-4
2004-6
2005-7
2006-7
2007-7
2008-13
2009-25

ethiopian womens depth also exploding

[Guest]

Interesting stats. Thanks.

What about Americans?

[doug091463]

USA sub 2:10:00 men
1997-1
1998-0
1999-1
2000-0
2001-0
2002-2
2003-0
2004-3
2005-1
2006-3
2007-1
2008-1
2009-2 (ritz ran 2:10:00) so almost 3

USA sub 2:30 women
1997-1
1998-0
1999-1
2000-1
2001-1
2002-2
2003-3
2004-4
2005-3
2006-2
2007-0
2008-2
2009-3

[doug091463]

all time best countries in the marathon scores based on tilastopaja top 100 all time list

men
kenya-59
ethiopia-10
japan, morrocco, and south africa 4 each
usa is tied with 3 countries with 2 each
it currently takes sub 2:07:32 to make all time top 100

women
japan-20
china-16
ethiopia-15
russia 11
kenya 10
GB & romania 3 each
USA tied with 6 other countries with 2 each.
it currently takes sub 2:25:15 to make the all time top 100.

[Daisy]

Re: marathon men sub 2:10.00 and women sub 2:30 for 1997-200

european men
2007-3
2008-3
2009-2

Wow, so few! I guess the prize money and sponsorship is just too hard to get.

[kamikaze7]

Kenyan men have abandoned the 10,000m because there arent that many races being offered. Even Brussels ditched it last year. So they are turning more and more to the marathon even as early as age 19.

[26mi235]

American figures are slightly affected because a much higher proportion of the top 10 Americans run Boston and NY and those courses are demonstrably slower (and a few bad Chicagos, to boot).

[SQUACKEE]

Kenyan men have abandoned the 10,000m because there arent that many races being offered. Even Brussels ditched it last year. So they are turning more and more to the marathon even as early as age 19.

Interesting. Athough i would love to see the 10,000 in every big meet, thats not what the majority of track fans want, right? And who can blame them?

The Pre meet "hides" their 10,000.

[joeltetreault]

I did a similar analysis a few years ago for all distance events over the last 30+ years:

http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/tetreaul/ ... stats.html

It really shows how and when Kenya exploded and how other countries have faded. Caveat is that I haven't rerun my scripts so it goes to 2007, but you'll get the general idea.