Sellers awesome? Carter better!

[Bob H]

I just got home from the Armory, where Xavier Carter shattered the indoor HS record in the 200, lowering it from 21.02 to 20.69. Granted that the old record may have been a bit soft, that 20.69 was just amazing. This guy is frighteningly big and fast--a perfect wide receiver, which I understand he is and will be at LSU.

Two undergraduate high school girls were also very impressive. Nicole Leach, whose outdoor prominence has been mainly in the 400m Hurdles, came within .09 seconds of Sanya Richards's 400m HSR. Leach's time was 52.19. She is still an 11th grader.

Even more impressive perhaps was 9th grader Devon Williams, who broke Shola Lynch's National Freshman 800m record. She let two overly agressive competitors burn themselves out with an unrealistic pace, and just breezed past them and opened up a big gap on a good field. A very poised, mature race and a remarkable time of 2:06.48 which (like Carter's) would have been good enough to place 6th in Fayetteville. And she's only a freshman.

There was lots of other really good competition in the meet and some fine performances. The marks will someday show up somewhere--I suppose Dyestat and eTN if nothing else. The meet's own website, as of a few minutes ago, showed only Friday's results. Something wrong there, but nothing wrong with the meet itself. It was wonderful.

[Dietmar239]

Re: Sellers awesome? Carter better!

Carter is a great athlete, however Scott Sellers IS awesome. The kid is still a junior and he'll be back for some more.

[gh]

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Oh crap! Picking the indoor AOY just got tougher.

[Tvarish]

Re: Sellers awesome? Carter better!

>I just got home from the Armory, where Xavier Carter shattered the indoor HS
>record in the 200, lowering it from 21.02 to 20.69. Granted that the old
>record may have been a bit soft, that 20.69 was just amazing. This guy is
>frighteningly big and fast--a perfect wide receiver, which I understand he is
>and will be at LSU.

Two undergraduate high school girls were also very
>impressive. Nicole Leach, whose outdoor prominence has been mainly in the 400m
>Hurdles, came within .09 seconds of Sanya Richards's 400m HSR. Leach's time
>was 52.19. She is still an 11th grader.

Even more impressive perhaps was
>9th grader Devon Williams, who broke Shola Lynch's National Freshman 800m
>record. She let two overly agressive competitors burn themselves out with an
>unrealistic pace, and just breezed past them and opened up a big gap on a good
>field. A very poised, mature race and a remarkable time of 2:06.48 which (like
>Carter's) would have been good enough to place 6th in Fayetteville. And she's
>only a freshman.

There was lots of other really good competition in the
>meet and some fine performances. The marks will someday show up somewhere--I
>suppose Dyestat and eTN if nothing else. The meet's own website, as of a few
>minutes ago, showed only Friday's results. Something wrong there, but nothing
>wrong with the meet itself. It was wonderful.

Is that not unreal the fact that she would have finished 6th at the ncaa indoors? Does that speak high of her or show how poor or college middle distance is at this time?

[Dutra]

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Even more
>impressive perhaps was
>9th grader Devon Williams, who broke Shola Lynch's
>National Freshman 800m
>record. She let two overly agressive competitors
>burn themselves out with an
>unrealistic pace, and just breezed past them and
>opened up a big gap on a good
>field. A very poised, mature race and a
>remarkable time of 2:06.48 which (like
>Carter's) would have been good enough
>to place 6th in Fayetteville. And she's
>only a freshman.


Is that not unreal the fact that she
>would have finished 6th at the ncaa indoors? Does that speak high of her or
>show how poor or college middle distance is at this time?
>

I think it reflects on the girl. I don't know how many 14 year olds worldwide are running 2:06.

[tandfman]

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> The marks will someday show up somewhere--I suppose Dyestat and eTN if nothing else.<

They're up on Dyestat now. Still not showing on the meet's own website--very strange, but at least they exist.

[coaches clean]

Re: Sellers awesome? Carter better!

Bob,

WRONG!

Look where each would have placed at NCAA D I's this past weekend.
The U.S. annually has a pile of sub 21 sec 200m men. But not so with 2.27 and better high jumpers. Plus HJ is more technique involved and Sellers is only a junior.
Sorry but the HJ beats the 200m performance here.
Also, while we all might dream of Carter becoming the next sub 20 sec. man, its all too likely that we will see him in the NFL in less than 4 years while at 155 lbs? and a 1400 SAT, Sellers will not be going "early entry" but will be contending in 2008 (if not later this summer) at the highest level of our sport.

[Bob H]

Re: Sellers awesome? Carter better!

>Bob, WRONG!

Look where each would have placed at NCAA D I's this past weekend. The U.S. annually has a pile of sub 21 sec 200m men. But not so with 2.27 and better high jumpers. Plus HJ is more technique involved and Sellers is only a junior. Sorry but the HJ beats the 200m performance here. <


Sorry, but I'm not convinced. That 200m performance was the 14th best in the world this indoor season. The HJ was the 49th best.



>>Also, while we all might dream of Carter becoming the next sub 20 sec. man, its all too likely that we will see him in the NFL in less than 4 years <<

This, unfortunately, may be true, but it has nothing to do with the intrinsic significance of his 200m performance.

[Dietmar239]

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I think we're comparing apples and oranges here. Scott had an awesome performance this weekend as did Carter. Carter's 200 was amazing and he's going to get even faster. Scott broke a 26 year old record with ease and that too deserves recognition. I'm just happy we have such great high schoolers to enjoy, which bodes well for American athletics.

[Bob H]

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>I'm just happy we have such great high schoolers to enjoy, which bodes well for American athletics.<

Amen.

[txrunchick]

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But did Carter qualify for the A-standard in the 200 yet?

[txrunchick]

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nope!

[coaches clean]

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perhaps you might qualify your selection of the 200m time?

[gh]

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Carter doesn't even have the B-qualifier of 20.65 yet, but methinks an indoor 20.69 (equalling his outdoor best of last year, by the by) converts pretty well to something a few 10ths faster.

[Bob H]

Re: Sellers awesome? Carter better!

The A Standard for the Olympic Games in the 200m is 20.59. In the high jump, it's 2.30m.

Carter's 20.69 is, as Garry points out, certainly worth better than a 20.59 outdoors, as Carter will likely demonstrates this spring--his personal best outdoors last year was 20.69 and he's obviously improved quite a bit since then.

In the high jump, indoor and outdoor are effectively equivalent and Sellers is still 3cm short of what he would need.

I rest my case.