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  • Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

    There are a bunch of good WRs holding over from the last century - I am leaving out the SP, DT and HT for possible "contamination". Which one will be the last to be broken? I suggest 4x400, TJ or JT.
    (The events are 400/800/1500/400IH/4x400, HJ/LJ/TJ/PV and the JT).

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    Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

    Originally posted by catson52
    There are a bunch of good WRs holding over from the last century - I am leaving out the SP, DT and HT for possible "contamination". Which one will be the last to be broken? I suggest 4x400, TJ or JT.
    (The events are 400/800/1500/400IH/4x400, HJ/LJ/TJ/PV and the JT).
    JT would be my guess, since the only two guys currently capable are not even within 7% of the required distance.

    also 1500 and 400h are currently out of reach, but remember before 2006 19.32 seemed safe for another 40 years and look where we are today!

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    • #3
      Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

      HJ, LJ,JT will last longer than than the TJ.

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      • #4
        Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

        It was actually 19.32. Some people would to exclude the HJ for contamination as well.

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        • #5
          Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

          Not to exclude ALL events for "contamination" is to deny reality. C'mon!

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            Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

            Originally posted by gh
            Not to exclude ALL events for "contamination" is to deny reality. C'mon!
            Exactly. Cynical ol' me is suspicious of over half of the events you have in brackets, although to cite which ones would probably contravene the rules of this board.

            On topic, I think I'll plump for the 1500 to be the last to be broken. I do think Kerron Clement has the ability to reach Kevin Young's 400H record, but whether he'll do it is another matter.

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            • #7
              Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

              by 2012 the 4x400 should be gone if everything goes right....Warriner, Merrit, Clement? and the one I believe will be the big surprise Tavaris Tate!

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                Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                i guess u forgot about the guy from UGA?????

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                • #9
                  Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                  Originally posted by ATK
                  by 2012 the 4x400 should be gone if everything goes right....Warriner, Merrit, Clement? and the one I believe will be the big surprise Tavaris Tate!
                  I've been stating this for almost five years now and I'll say it again: no team will ever have the slimmest chance of breaking the 4x400 record with Clement running a leg. The guy's fastest split IN HIS PRIME was 44.3. Compare that with the splits from the '93 and '98 team and you'll see why he doesn't belong.

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                    Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                    Originally posted by gh
                    Not to exclude ALL events for "contamination" is to deny reality. C'mon!
                    My, my, a real cynic. And that too from the St. Peter of the "Bible of the Sport". Approaching the age of 70, I have some hope left. Is J. Edwards to be included?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                      Originally posted by MostKnownUnknown
                      i guess u forgot about the guy from UGA?????
                      Yea I wanted to say Torrin Lawrence but only because I see more long term potential in Tate than Lawrence

                      Originally posted by STL_Runner
                      've been stating this for almost five years now and I'll say it again: no team will ever have the slimmest chance of breaking the 4x400 record with Clement running a leg. The guy's fastest split IN HIS PRIME was 44.3. Compare that with the splits from the '93 and '98 team and you'll see why he doesn't belong.
                      I was hesitant to say Clement also, bur I feel like he has so much untapped flat 400 (and 400h) potential that if he just happens to be put in the right situation he will drop a bomb. But there obviously will be many 400m options to choose from come 2012...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                        Originally posted by catson52
                        Originally posted by gh
                        Not to exclude ALL events for "contamination" is to deny reality. C'mon!
                        My, my, a real cynic. And that too from the St. Peter of the "Bible of the Sport". Approaching the age of 70, I have some hope left. Is J. Edwards to be included?
                        Is there a special reason to exclude Edwards other than that he's a countryman of yours? I'm sure there are equally fervent defenders from the nations of all the others involved (OK, maybe not so much twice-busted Sotomayor!)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                          Originally posted by gh
                          Originally posted by catson52
                          Originally posted by gh
                          Not to exclude ALL events for "contamination" is to deny reality. C'mon!
                          My, my, a real cynic. And that too from the St. Peter of the "Bible of the Sport". Approaching the age of 70, I have some hope left. Is J. Edwards to be included?
                          Is there a special reason to exclude Edwards other than that he's a countryman of yours? I'm sure there are equally fervent defenders from the nations of all the others involved (OK, maybe not so much twice-busted Sotomayor!)
                          Well. The way from a sundaynoncompeter by religious beliefs to a cheater seems to be very long, not only for Brits.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                            ...and the way from sundaynoncompeter by religious beliefs to WR holder (and 5 of the 6 best jumps) to religious non-believer is a very, very long way, too.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mens WRs (Oly events) over ten years old.

                              Originally posted by 7-sided
                              ...and the way from sundaynoncompeter by religious beliefs to WR holder (and 5 of the 6 best jumps) to religious non-believer is a very, very long way, too.
                              at first he turned from a worldclassathlete (17,43m) with average physics but great speed and poor technique, into the best techniqual jumper with great stabilisation. if you take the time to observe his around 20(?) 17m jumps from 1991 to 1994, i dont really wonder, that there was space left for improvement. or did you think he was on even in 1991?

                              second, he is not really a non-beliefer just because he lost his faith. and you should recognize the time when it happened aswell.

                              so please dont mix up different aspects.

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