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    Yes, they actually ran (shame-shame-shame!) a 3200, but whatever 8-lap race you want to call it, the Arcadia men's one last weekend was the deepest in prep history, says T&FN High School Editor Jack Shepard.

    First, here's the top end of the results, with times as taken, and as converted to 2M by T&FN formula:

    3200: 1. Solinsky (Stevens Point, Wi) 8:43.24 (HSL) (11, x HS) <worth 8:46.28 for 2M>;
    2. Vaughn (Smoky Hill, Aurora, Co) 8:45.60 <8:48.65>; 3. Moe (Riverside, Auburn, Wa) 8:48.04 <8:51.11>;
    4. Curtis (Xavier, Louisville) 8:48.39 <8:51.46>;
    5. Debole (Mt Tabor) 8:50.16 <8:53.24>;
    6. Hassen (Vanguard, Ocala, Fl) 8:52.75 <8:55.84>;
    7. Ruiz (Monroe, N Hills, Ca) 8:55.80 <8:58.91>;
    8. Trafeh (Duarte, Ca) 8:55.87 <8:58.98>;
    9. Kollar (Strongsville, Oh) 8:56.35 <8:59.47>;
    10. Nelson (Liberty, Redding, Ca) 8:58.89 <9:02.02>;
    11. Alizzi (Syosset, NY) 8:59.63 <9:02.76>;
    12. Dalpiaz (Sayville, NY) 9:01.20 <9:04.34>.

    Looking at preps-only races, that race generated best-ever marks-for-place in places: 3 through 12, 15, and 18.

    And with 11—or 9 in a 2M frame of reference—the race had the most sub-9:00 performers ever: ’81 Cal State and ’02 Arcadia each had 6, in both yard and metric sense. Three other 2M races had 5: ’72 Cal State, ’73 Golden West, ’74 Cal State). In short, wow!

    gh
    (garry hill/editor, T&FN

  • #2
    Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

    Holy @#$%! And I thought that 4:01-4:03-4:11 1600 here in Texas was impressive. That 12th placer would be the year's state leader here.
    "Run fast and keep turning left."

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    • #3
      Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

      An absoultely awesome race. Still not the best 2 mile/3200 ever, but depth beyond belief and its only April.

      Also, check the girls 3200 where Amanda Trotter ran 10:28 and got only 4th, while her sister ran 4:48 to win the mile. Oh, and its only April.
      Joe Lanzalotto

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      • #4
        Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

        If Arcadia wasn't the greatest 2M ever, then what was?

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        • #5
          Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

          In the woulda-coulda category, Vaughn finished his 10 days of antibiotics on the Thursday before the race. The race coulda been different.

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          • #6
            Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

            There were several errors in the results last weekend, including Alberquerque Acadamey's Alex Romero, who was initially listed as a scratch in the invitational 3200. (Meet director) Rich Gonzalez went back and found his time to be 9:02.77, which throws him into 13th place. No idea how that impacts the AT lists per depth, but the marks surely makes the race just that much more impressive.

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            • #7
              Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

              It's Albuqerque High School, not Albuquerque Academy. Completely different schools. One's ghetto, the others fancy and private.

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              • #8
                Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                As pathetic as it seems, 9:02.77 was also the New Mexico state record breaking Brandon Leslie's by 5 seconds.

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                • #9
                  Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                  Originally posted by gh
                  Yes, they actually ran (shame-shame-shame!) a 3200, but whatever 8-lap race you want to call it, the Arcadia men's one last weekend was the deepest in prep history, says T&FN High School Editor Jack Shepard.

                  First, here's the top end of the results, with times as taken, and as converted to 2M by T&FN formula:

                  3200: 1. Solinsky (Stevens Point, Wi) 8:43.24 (HSL) (11, x HS) <worth 8:46.28 for 2M>;
                  In the category of "what ever happened to?", here's one of the few success stories.

                  [Tafny for most obscure reinitiation of a thread?]

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                  • #10
                    Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                    Originally posted by Marlow
                    [Tafny for most obscure reinitiation of a thread?]
                    But also the most confusing. I thought for the longest time this thread was about the 2010 version, which ALSO has unprecedented depth.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                      Originally posted by Half Miler
                      Originally posted by Marlow
                      [Tafny for most obscure reinitiation of a thread?]
                      But also the most confusing.
                      Confusion is merely reality's way of say, "yes, you really are senile!" :P

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                      • #12
                        Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                        Aside from Solinsky, did any of the other runners in the 2003 race do anything impressive in college?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                          I can only speak for the CA guys but Tim Nelson ran 27:31.56 in the same Solinsky race and Mo Trafeh has had some recent success on the roads as well.
                          www.albertcaruana.blogspot.com

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                          • #14
                            Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                            Originally posted by Dave
                            Aside from Solinsky, did any of the other runners in the 2003 race do anything impressive in college?
                            Some highlights:
                            2. Brent Vaughn (Smoky Hill, Aurora, Co) 8:45.60
                            U of Colorado - NCAA Nats = XC 4th 2004, 5th 2007; Outdoor 5000 4th 2005, 3rd 2008

                            4. Bobby Curtis (Xavier, Louisville) 8:48.39 <8:51.46>
                            Villanova - NCAA Nats = XC 4th 2007; Outdoor 5000 2nd 2007, 1st 2008

                            8. Mo Trafeh (Duarte, Ca) 8:55.87 <8:58.98>
                            Arizona (a year or 2 ?) - NYC Half-Marathon 3rd 1:00:39 2010

                            10. Tim Nelson (Liberty, Redding, Ca) 8:58.89 <9:02.02>
                            Wisconsin - NCAA Nats = XC 18th 2005 & 2006; Outdoor 10000 5th 2007; Indoor 5000 5th 2007; Cardinal/Stanford 10000 7th 27:31.56 2010

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                            • #15
                              Re: Arcadia 2M: greatest depth ever

                              I would say that is 5 pretty decent set of marks. Note that Nelson finished 32 seconds back but broke his PR from last year when he won by 6 seconds. Both he and Simon Bairu have indicated that they are now off to run a fall marathon (NY, I think).

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