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  • where are the brits?

    great britain has a long history of great middle and long distance runners from roger bannister to the 80s with coe, ovett, cram, eliott, moorecroft, hutchings, bedford, ron hill, ian thompson, bill adcocks who holds the course record for the olympic marathon course in athens,hutchings etc. now there is paula radcliffe, a girl who ran 834 for 3000, kelly holmes, but the men seem to have nothing jon browne and mayock looked like they were gonna be elite, but have seemed to fizzle at the highest levels. great britain is probably longing for a paul larkins or graeme williamson as the united states would like to have more todd harbours or chuck aragons.

  • #2
    Re: where are the brits?

    OK, so Britain aren't as good as they used to be, but in athletics we so often see nations peaking in certain events (where a handful of athletes will be performing well), only for a the same event to be a weak point for the same nation just a few years later. Having said that, British men's middle-distance running isn't as bad as it's made out to be - in the most recent global champs (World Indoors) Britain had two men make the 1500m final (where one would have won bronze had it not been for the DQ). Our current crop includes:

    800M:
    James McIlroy - 1:45.30 (2003)
    Neil Speaight - 1:45.81 (2003)
    Ricky Soos - 1:46.06 (2003, aged 20)

    1500M:
    John Mayock - 3:31.86 (Back in 1997, but he's still competing at a decent level)
    Anthony Whiteman - 3:32.34 (Also ran in 1997 but ran a similar time in 2002. He's ran faster than Peter Elliot's PB on 3 occasions)
    Mike East - 3:35.49 (2003, not the fastest of times but he is European Indoor Champion, Commonwealth Games Champion, and placed 3rd - albeit DQ - at the WICh)
    Andrew Graffin - 3:35.53 (2002)
    James Thie - 3:38.69 (indoors, 2004 - looks set to go quicker this outdoor season)

    5000M
    John Mayock - 13:19.43 (2002)
    Sam Haughian - 13:19.45 (2002)
    Karl Keska - 13:20.30 (2002) Karl is more suited towards the 10k, where he has ran in the 27:40 range on several occasions, including 8th in Sydney, where he was the first European across the line.

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    • #3
      Re: where are the brits?

      Brendan Foster ( great middle/long distance runner from the 70s, and now a commentator for BBC TV ) says that the best Brits should get together and train as a group - as do the Kenyons and Ethiopians. I agree. On a personal level, I have found this "group work" approach really works. It motivates and creates a more competive and intense training regime. But, of course, times have moved on from the glory days of Coe/Ovett/Cram/Moorcroft and Elliott, and it is going to be that much harder to get to, or at least near, the top.

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      • #4
        Re: where are the brits?

        >British men's middle-distance
        >running isn't as bad as it's made out to be - in the most recent global champs
        >(World Indoors) Britain had two men make the 1500m final (where one would have
        >won bronze had it not been for the DQ).

        i believe the East "Shunt" currently has pushed rotich into downtown Cairo - approximately 1/2 way to East's goal of shunting him back to Nairobi

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        • #5
          Re: where are the brits?

          >i believe the East "Shunt" currently has pushed rotich into downtown
          >Cairo



          Yeh, or at least lane 5!

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          • #6
            Re: where are the brits?

            There is not a whole lot of difference between American and British distance runners. The American's actually have the advantage at both the 10K and Marathon. The 1500 is a toss up. It all depends if Krummenacker is running the event.
            East is only slightly faster than Lunn, but dead equal to Grant Robison (3:35.48).
            Watching the development of both Thie and Webb should be interesting. Both these fine runners have equal ability.

            The Marathon is where the British are really lacking.

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