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  • #31
    Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
    There are more gymnast turned pole vaulters than gymnast turned long jumpers.
    Polish long jump record holder Agata Karczmarek (6.97 in 1988, 6th in 1996 OG and 8th in 1988) competed in the Moscow Olympics as a gymnast.
    Well thanks for that one person....

    Who happens to be a long jumper turned gymnast and not the other way around....
    Moscow was in 1980, so no, she wasn't.

    She was 16 when she competed in gymnastics at the OG. After switching to T&F, she initially specialised in HJ, and cleared 1.85 at 17 before starting with the LJ.
    Oh welps, she still wasn't a good gymnast. :lol:

    And still only one person.

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    • #32
      Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

      She actually made it to the OG as a gymnast, unlike any of the vaulters mentioned. I'm not sure what your definition of 'good' is, but if you apply it consistenly, none of the gymnasts-turned-T&Fers qualify.
      Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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      • #33
        Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

        Oh, and I remembered another one: Susen Tiedtke had also been a gymnast (presumably a pretty good one) before she went into LJ.

        According to German WIkipedia, she was GDR champion on the balance beam, and was a member of the 1984 Olympic team, which didn't get to compete at the OG because of the boycott. The article also says she tried the pole vault at some point before turning to LJ.
        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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        • #34
          Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

          Originally posted by Powell
          She actually made it to the OG as a gymnast, unlike any of the vaulters mentioned. I'm not sure what your definition of 'good' is, but if you apply it consistenly, none of the gymnasts-turned-T&Fers qualify.
          Poland is not a force in gymnastics. They barely make the team final. EVER. My definition of good is better than the Polish gymnastics team.

          I guess Isi doesn't qualify then...

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          • #35
            Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

            Originally posted by Powell
            Oh, and I remembered another one: Susen Tiedtke had also been a gymnast (presumably a pretty good one) before she went into LJ.

            According to German WIkipedia, she was GDR champion on the balance beam, and was a member of the 1984 Olympic team, which didn't get to compete at the OG because of the boycott. The article also says she tried the pole vault at some point before turning to LJ.
            Tiedtke won the East German championship in balance beam in 1982.

            I don't think you and I should continue this debate about gymnastics...

            And we also shouldn't continue talking about this doper.

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            • #36
              Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

              Well, you said Karczmarek wasn't a good gymnast because you never heard of her. So had you ever heard of Isi in her gymnastics days before she started vaulting? Or of Feofanova, or Bartova?
              Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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              • #37
                Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                Tiedtke won the East German championship in balance beam in 1982.

                I don't think you and I should continue this debate about gymnastics...
                Because it contradicts your point?

                Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                And we also shouldn't continue talking about this doper.
                Wasn't Tiedtke's ban lifted, or at least there was some reasonable doubt about it?
                Anyway, whatever she might have used, she's still a good example of a high-level gymnast who became a world-class long jumper.
                Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                • #38
                  Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                  Originally posted by Powell
                  Well, you said Karczmarek wasn't a good gymnast because you never heard of her. So had you ever heard of Isi in her gymnastics days before she started vaulting? Or of Feofanova, or Bartova?
                  I didn't say that. She REALLY just wasn't a good gymnast. Gymnastics in the 80's was controlled by the USSR and Romania mostly. The Polish were (and still are) non-factors.

                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but Isi never competed in gymnastics on a major level, and stopped at what, 15? So, naturally no I'd never heard of her.

                  Feofanova was on the Russian Junior gymnastics team, but she quit gymnastics before any major exposure (like competing at the Olympics). Plus the only Russian Svetlana that I should know when talking about gymnastics, is Khorkina (who Feofanova competed with)

                  I've never heard of a Bartova, but if she was a force in gymnastics, I definitely would have.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                    Originally posted by Powell
                    Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                    Tiedtke won the East German championship in balance beam in 1982.

                    I don't think you and I should continue this debate about gymnastics...
                    Because it contradicts your point?

                    Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                    And we also shouldn't continue talking about this doper.
                    Wasn't Tiedtke's ban lifted, or at least there was some reasonable doubt about it?
                    Anyway, whatever she might have used, she's still a good example of a high-level gymnast who became a world-class long jumper.
                    No, because I can name a handful. HANDFUL of gymnasts who medalled on an apparatus in their home countries championships who were still no good gymnasts. Gymnastics is a JUDGED sport ya know, naturally some people are going to win who shouldn't have.

                    Matters not, she tested positive, so she tested positive.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                      If your definition of a good gymnast is someone who wins individual medals at global level, then clearly there's never been a single good gymnast who became a top-level T&F athlete, and the whole discussion becomes sorta pointless.
                      Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                      • #41
                        Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                        Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                        Originally posted by Powell
                        Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                        Tiedtke won the East German championship in balance beam in 1982.

                        I don't think you and I should continue this debate about gymnastics...
                        Because it contradicts your point?
                        No, because I can name a handful. HANDFUL of gymnasts who medalled on an apparatus in their home countries championships who were still no good gymnasts. Gymnastics is a JUDGED sport ya know, naturally some people are going to win who shouldn't have.
                        And of course you watched every second of the EG 1982 gymnastics nationals, and remember Tiedtke's performance there, which was clearly crap, but the biased judges gave her the win... How nice.
                        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                        • #42
                          Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                          Originally posted by Powell
                          If your definition of a good gymnast is someone who wins individual medals at global level, then clearly there's never been a single good gymnast who became a top-level T&F athlete, and the whole discussion becomes sorta pointless.
                          Okay...? My argument from the beginning is that there have been more gymnast turned pole vaulters than long jumpers. And that gymnasts would do better at pole vaulting than long jumping. Somehow (I don't care to go back and look), I got deterred from my original point.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                            Originally posted by Powell
                            Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                            Originally posted by Powell
                            Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                            Tiedtke won the East German championship in balance beam in 1982.

                            I don't think you and I should continue this debate about gymnastics...
                            Because it contradicts your point?
                            No, because I can name a handful. HANDFUL of gymnasts who medalled on an apparatus in their home countries championships who were still no good gymnasts. Gymnastics is a JUDGED sport ya know, naturally some people are going to win who shouldn't have.
                            And of course you watched every second of the EG 1982 gymnastics nationals, and remember Tiedtke's performance there, which was clearly crap, but the biased judges gave her the win... How nice.
                            SHE WAS SH*T FOR A GYMNAST NOW GOODNIGHT!





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                            • #44
                              Re: Gymnast doing a decathlon?

                              Originally posted by NotSoOrdinary
                              Okay...? My argument from the beginning is that there have been more gymnast turned pole vaulters than long jumpers. And that gymnasts would do better at pole vaulting than long jumping. Somehow (I don't care to go back and look), I got deterred from my original point.
                              There was no argument, just a statement, and then some grasping at straws when I came up with counter-examples.
                              Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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