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  • #31
    Re: 2011 WC: wSP—

    Originally posted by Powell

    I'm actually very excited about today's final. With all 13 women having thrown over 19 meters this year, this could be the best women's SP competition in ages.
    It'll be interesting to see whether Nadine Kleinert can continue her streak. She's made the top 8 in every single major championship (OG, WC and EC) since 1997. If she can do it in Daegu, this will be her 15th in a row :shock:

    and she did!!
    what an exciting competion!! Italian commentators ignore it but it was great
    1 Valerie Adams NZL 21.24 (CR)
    2 Nadzeya Ostapchuk BLR 20.05
    3 Jillian Camarena-Williams USA 20.02
    4 Lijiao Gong CHN 19.97
    5 Yevgeniya Kolodko RUS 19.78 (PB)
    6 Ling Li CHN 19.71
    7 Anna Avdeeva RUS 19.54 (SB)
    8 Nadine Kleinert GER 19.26 (SB)

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    • #32
      Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams 21.24 (69-8 1/4)

      Very good throwing here.

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      • #33
        Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

        Originally posted by bushop
        Anyone know what is in the photo Adams pulled out and was pointing at after the 21m throw?
        On the piece of paper was a picture of her new coach, Jean Pierre Egger. I believe she took it with her in the comp to provide some inspiration. She moved to Switzerland to train with him after splitting with former coach Didier Poppe (coach of Jacko Gill).

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        • #34
          Re: 2011 WC: wSP—

          Originally posted by GMH454

          1/ Adams
          2/ Ostapchuck
          3/ Jill Camarena?Williams

          and Jill has been throwing very well this year, she could finish a lot better than third.
          Hi Fives himself and dances round room .....

          (could not stay up last night way too tired . will have to wait and see the video today)

          seldom do you see the worlds best three go, in that order ..

          congrats to Val, Nadia and Jill
          We all overtrain "Pat Casey to George Frenn"

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          • #35
            Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

            Originally posted by uakari
            amazing to think that there were 21 throws longer than that , all before 2000...
            Not throws, throwers... 348 throws exceed Adam's effort (including ancilliaries and indoors)!!

            By year:
            1973 1
            1974 2
            1975 6
            1976 21
            1977 26
            1978 21
            1979 25
            1980 64
            1981 7
            1982 25
            1983 29
            1984 37
            1985 6
            1986 15
            1987 14
            1988 43
            1990 2
            1991 1
            1998 1
            2000 1
            2010 1

            So only 6 throws have been longer than Adams' in past 21 years!!

            Stats, as always from http://www.alltime-athletics.com/wshotok.htm

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            • #36
              Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

              Originally posted by AS
              Originally posted by uakari
              amazing to think that there were 21 throws longer than that , all before 2000...
              Not throws, throwers... 348 throws exceed Adam's effort (including ancilliaries and indoors)!!

              By year:
              1973 1
              1974 2
              1975 6
              1976 21
              1977 26
              1978 21
              1979 25
              1980 64
              1981 7
              1982 25
              1983 29
              1984 37
              1985 6
              1986 15
              1987 14
              1988 43
              1990 2
              1991 1
              1998 1
              2000 1
              2010 1

              So only 6 throws have been longer than Adams' in past 21 years!!

              Stats, as always from http://www.alltime-athletics.com/wshotok.htm
              Having seen some of those stats, I think Dwight erred on his assertion of Adams' throw being the longest throw this century. There's a 21.46 (70-5) entry from Larisa Peleshenko in Moscow in 2000, to go with Ostapchuk's more recent indoor 71-footer.

              When was the last 72-footer (21.95)? What are the chances of that happening between now and Rio 2016?

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              • #37
                Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

                Originally posted by CookyMonzta
                When was the last 72-footer (21.95)? What are the chances of that happening between now and Rio 2016?
                Never mind. I think I found it. The last 72-footer was Natalya Lisovskaya's Seoul 1988 performance of 22.24.

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                • #38
                  Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

                  Originally posted by CookyMonzta
                  Having seen some of those stats, I think Dwight erred on his assertion of Adams' throw being the longest throw this century. There's a 21.46 (70-5) entry from Larisa Peleshenko in Moscow in 2000, to go with Ostapchuk's more recent indoor 71-footer.
                  21st Century starts 1/1/2001, not 1/1/2000, despite what common 'preference' is (either that or one of the centuries had only 99 years, but what is more important, some preference or the definition of a century?). [I understand your point, and it is valid, if not without debate.]

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                  • #39
                    Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams 21.24 (69-8 1/4)

                    Lovely competition for some very impressive ladies. And I don't even know where to start with Ms Camarena... she even tried for silver... Greetings from Tucson (after Lagat, our second track and field local celebrity!)

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                    • #40
                      Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

                      Originally posted by bushop
                      Originally posted by AS
                      VALERIE!!!! Equals CR! 21.24!!!
                      She's well on her way to T&F News Athlete of the Year... or not?
                      quote]

                      I was a fierce supporter of Ostapchuk last year for Athlete of the year until she lost the WCup. Adams is in a much better form this year (better than last year's Ostapchuk). If she can pull off one more 21m this year, she has my vote for sure.

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                      • #41
                        Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams 21.24 (69-8 1/4)

                        I think Valerie is the athlete of the Worlds so far... we're not used to that level of performance from a female shot putter these days. I know in general that standards are down, but still that is the best championship shot result in decades.

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                        • #42
                          Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

                          Originally posted by 26mi235
                          Originally posted by CookyMonzta
                          Having seen some of those stats, I think Dwight erred on his assertion of Adams' throw being the longest throw this century. There's a 21.46 (70-5) entry from Larisa Peleshenko in Moscow in 2000, to go with Ostapchuk's more recent indoor 71-footer.
                          21st Century starts 1/1/2001, not 1/1/2000, despite what common 'preference' is (either that or one of the centuries had only 99 years, but what is more important, some preference or the definition of a century?). [I understand your point, and it is valid, if not without debate.]
                          The dictionary clearly defines a century as a period of 100 years. 1852-1961 was a century, for example.

                          So when the common man talks "centuries" he doesn't care about the historical starting point, he cares only for what makes the most sense, and that's a 100-year period in which all the years start with the same two numbers. In this case 20.

                          Notice the original post, not written for a convention if mathematicians, doesn't say "21st century" it says "this century." It's spot-on.

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                          • #43
                            Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams defends w/ WL

                            Originally posted by gh
                            The dictionary clearly defines a century as a period of 100 years. 1852-1961 was a century, for example.... It's spot-on.
                            Not to belabour the point, but, 1. You're obviously right, and, 2. the argument about a "missing year" or one century having had 99 years is clearly false. Extrapolation to the BOD of the alleged father of christianity leaves a FOUR year hole in the calendar; so if someone wants to walk around with a heavy object up their back-door and claim that the turn of the millennium was in 1/1/2001 rather than 1/1/2000, they might as well accept that it was actually in 1/1/1996.

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                            • #44
                              Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams 21.24 (69-8 1/4)

                              Adams would have beat Fibingerová in '83 and lost on countback to Lisovskaya in '87. Only Ilona "19+ meters with men's shot" Slupianek in '80 and Natalya Lisovskaya in '88 would have outclassed her, but 21.24 would still have been enough for a bronze and a silver. 22 meters wasn't usual in global championships even in the 70s and 80s.

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                              • #45
                                Re: ¶2011 WC: wSP—Adams 21.24 (69-8 1/4)

                                Excellent results on this event and an extraordinary fight for the podium with the exception of first place. Would Adams reach 22m? How many athletes will achieve 20m in 2012? These are good questions for next year. Adams seems unreachable but the other athletes are improving (european, american, chinese), this event promise a lot. My "plus" goes to Adams, my "minus" goes to Mikhnevich (I expected more from her).

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