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    Gary does a great job of announcing, but trying to pronounce all those foreign names is a hopeless task without a guide. I assume no such guide is provided the announcers. Gary sometimes goes back and forth on his pronunciation of Russian family names, like:

    a-bak-U-mo-va
    a-bak-u-MO-va

    I got into a discussion with a Brit in front of me about some women's names. He didn't think there was ever a stress on the O-va, but there is, sometimes. Unfortunately, there is no rule for where the stress falls in Russian; it bounces all over the place, including in different forms of the same root word. This is a nightmare for learners of Russian; hence, in textbooks the stress is always marked.

    I found a video of an interview with Anna Chicherova on Russian TV, and the interviewer pronounced her name CHI-cher-a-va (those last two vowels are actually "shwa", a neutral, unstressed "grunt". I assume this is correct, as interviewers are not prone to mispronounce interviewee's names. (Nor did she correct him.)

    Although I studied Russian for seven years and spoke relatively fluently, that was over 40 years ago, so I am not much better off than non-Russian speakers in this area.

    So, I sent an e-mail (in Russian) to [email protected] asking them if there exists a list of the Russian "sbornaya" (national combined team) with stress indicated. It seems doubtful, but maybe, in the interests of international communication, they will provide something. If I do get anything in return, I will share it will T&F N and anyone else who is anal enough to be interested. >:-)

    I am also trying to contact the Moscow LOC to find out whether they are going to relax visa restrictions for spectators coming to Moscow in 2013. One of the news items said that they had a "simplified" visa system for athletes and officials, but nothing about spectators. You'd think they'd want to remove a disincentive.
    Cheers,
    Alan Shank
    Woodland, CA, USA

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    Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

    Russian stress is largely unpredictable, that's for certain. The stress on feminine surnames should fall on the same syllable as in the masculine forms. In the case of Chicherova, hers is pronounced in four syllables, Chi-che-ro-va, with the stress on the i ("ee").
    Fire Impossible.

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    • #3
      Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

      BBC used to always put the emphasis on the OVA untill around 03 when they completely switched and put it in the middle syllable i specifically remember them changing from TomashOVA to TomAshova

      They have a whole department at the BBC that comes up with standard pronouciations so someone had obviously done some investigating and come up with a new rule, whether it is correct or not i have no idea.

      There have always been some exceptions and ChicherOVA is one :?
      i deserve extra credit

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      • #4
        Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

        If there's a 'sho' in the name, the O is always stressed, so TomashOva (otherwise it'd be spelt - not pronounced - TomashEva, and pronounced TomAsheva). There are rules that an unstressed 'o' cannot appear after certain letters including the one for 'sh' and must be replaced by 'e'; there is a letter for 'yo' which is an 'umlaut' 'e' but which is always stressed.

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        • #5
          Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

          Thought I would try these names on the Ivona text-to-speech site from Powell's Polish Post. :wink:

          Unfortunately, Russian is not yet deemed as important as Romanian or Castilian Spanish. :?

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          • #6
            Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

            That may be precisely because of the stressed sylable issue. This makes it more difficult to convert text to speech than in a language like Polish.
            Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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            • #7
              Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

              One that sticks in my mind is Privalova. The BBC generally pronounced it pri-VAR-lo-va, but occasionally said pri-val-OVA. Another one was Kotylarova; sometimes kotyl-yar-OVA, sometimes kotly-YAR-ova.

              They would sometimes get Goncharenko wrong, calling her Gonchacherenko, but that was just a plain mistake

              Off topic, but Drechsler was misspelt and mis pronounced for years; she was Dreschler in many a print publication and commentary, then they nearly got the pronunication right with 'drexler' before finally getting drech-sler

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              • #8
                Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                Alan, if you'd like to listen to Chicherova's name pronounced in Russian, click below (near the 27s mark): http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/lig ... ishoy-pobe
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                • #9
                  Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                  roo c ah...

                  that's russia , or at least, how my russian friends say it

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                  • #10
                    Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                    One of the most common Russian pronunciation errors is with ?????????, Americanized to Isinbayeva, pronounced incorrectly as Iss-in-bye-ay-va.

                    It's correct pronunciation is Ees-in-bAeva, with the -eva ending similar to the sounds of hay, say, day

                    The "a" pronunciation in baeva is similar to the sounds of bought, fought, sought, mop, dot
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                    • #11
                      Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                      Originally posted by Alan Shank
                      Gary does a great job of announcing, but trying to pronounce all those foreign names is a hopeless task without a guide. I assume no such guide is provided the announcers. Gary sometimes goes back and forth on his pronunciation of Russian family names, like:

                      a-bak-U-mo-va
                      a-bak-u-MO-va

                      .....
                      No, that's a name I always pronounce the former way, since we were assured by Russian team functionaries back in Beijing that was correct version.

                      What you were hearing was the difference between my Daegu partner (who did the introductions and the first 3 rounds) and me (who did the last 3 rounds and the Victory Ceremony).

                      I'm the one who consistently fracks up Mo FARR-ah as Mo Fa-RAH.

                      ps--i hope you appreciate the irony of taking me to task for (apparent) name confusions and explain it by spelling my name wrong. :roll:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                        Originally posted by 3
                        Alan, if you'd like to listen to Chicherova's name pronounced in Russian, click below (near the 27s mark): http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/lig ... ishoy-pobe
                        Well, if you read my post carefully, you read that I already heard her name pronounced by a Russian on Russian TV, and that I gave the correct pronunciation -- CHI cher a va

                        I'm not particularly hopeful of getting a reply to my e-mail, but we'll see.
                        Cheers,
                        Alan Shank
                        Woodland, CA, USA

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                        • #13
                          Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                          Originally posted by gh
                          Originally posted by Alan Shank
                          Gary does a great job of announcing, but trying to pronounce all those foreign names is a hopeless task without a guide. I assume no such guide is provided the announcers. Gary sometimes goes back and forth on his pronunciation of Russian family names, like:

                          a-bak-U-mo-va
                          a-bak-u-MO-va

                          .....
                          No, that's a name I always pronounce the former way, since we were assured by Russian team functionaries back in Beijing that was correct version.

                          What you were hearing was the difference between my Daegu partner (who did the introductions and the first 3 rounds) and me (who did the last 3 rounds and the Victory Ceremony).

                          I'm the one who consistently fracks up Mo FARR-ah as Mo Fa-RAH.

                          ps--i hope you appreciate the irony of taking me to task for (apparent) name confusions and explain it by spelling my name wrong. :roll:
                          Ooops!!! Sorry, Garry. My excuse is that I've only been seeing your name in T&F News for about 45 years, and it takes me 46 years to remember anything! >:-)

                          I wasn't really taking you to task, either.
                          Cheers,
                          Alan Shank
                          Woodland, CA, USA

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                          • #14
                            Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                            I should clarify that you will hear me pronounce many names "incorrectly" in the context of either an intro or (particularly), during a Victory Ceremony.

                            And that's in all languages, as the modern school of bombastic credentials (thank you Michael Buffer) pretty much demands clear separation of all syllables, with all getting major stress.

                            (or, thank you Andrés Cantor, for inspiring YOU-SAIN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLT!)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Pronunciation of Russian names

                              Originally posted by Alan Shank
                              Well, if you read my post carefully, you read that I already heard her name pronounced by a Russian on Russian TV, and that I gave the correct pronunciation -- CHI cher a va

                              I'm not particularly hopeful of getting a reply to my e-mail, but we'll see.
                              Cheers,
                              Alan Shank
                              Woodland, CA, USA
                              That was to the benefit of the whole.
                              Fire Impossible.

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