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  • #46
    Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

    Originally posted by Smoke
    that 4x1 is a lot closer than some are paying attention to.
    Indeed - what used to be an insurmountable gap has narrowed. IF (!!) Gay, Dix, Gatlin, Spearmon, and/or Bailey, Padgett, Patton (sub-9.90 guys) are healthy and in top shape come London, Jamaica will still be the deserved favorite, but they'd have to bring their A-game to beat an Ami A-game, and we all know how rare an A-game is in the OG final by BOTH parties. Whoever flinches, loses.

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    • #47
      Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

      Originally posted by JumboElliott
      Is it just me, or do a lot of sprinters run fast when "slowing down at the end". Could it just be natural deceleration?
      I've mentioned this multiple times here: I have no scientific data, but based on years of close examination of the subject, I'm convinced that "letting up" (at least in the last 5-10 meters) doesn't measurably change the speed.

      If you base your opinion on either video evidence or sitting at the finish line, you can't make a real judgment because parallax error. But if you sit at the 1500 start (one of my favorites when I'm not in the booth), where you see the finish side-on with perspective (they move "slower" when they aren't right in front of you), I think you'll agree that when you see people let up, the gap between them and those still charging hard behind them doesn't change enough for the naked eye to detect..

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      • #48
        Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

        Originally posted by Smoke
        I'm going to go out on a limb and say Blake has a ways to go before we start claiming he has 9.5 in him, and he did a backflip across the line.
        I don't see how that's going out on a limb. Anyone who predicts a 9.5 for Blake is dreaming right now.

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        • #49
          Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

          Originally posted by gh
          I'm convinced that "letting up" (at least in the last 5-10 meters) doesn't measurably change the speed. . . . when you see people let up, the gap between them and those still charging hard behind them doesn't change enough for the naked eye to detect..
          That is my spectator experience as well. We hear all these breathless descriptions of say, Bolt, jogging the last 10-15 meters of a race, and yet his 'deceleration' is virtually the same as though he had run through the tape. As a matter of fact, in both Bolt's 200m WRs, where he is OBVIOUSLY trying to wring every last .01 from his time, he appears to tie up and slow down more than if had simply relaxed and kept his momentum through the line.

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          • #50
            Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

            9.5 for Blake sounds impossible in my opinion.
            He should get around 6.30 in first 60m(perfect start, perfect aceleration)that Blake can not make and he should finish in less 3.30 last 40m, nearly impossible(he should get some splits 0.81 and 0.82 i imagine).

            9.7 looks vey reasonable for Blake in this moment and in perfect shape in his career 9.65-9.70 looks possible too in my mind.

            If im wrong, we will see soon :wink:

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            • #51
              Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

              When runners "slowed down" usually they lose very few speed.
              Usually 0.01 or 0.02.
              Only with big jogging style Bolt in Beijing where i think that he lose between 0.06 and 0.08(being very optimistic) the lost time is improtant, the rest runners include Powell is not a big lost speed.

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              • #52
                Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

                Usain Bolt running by himself looks slower than Walter Dix running by himself and even Oscar Pistorious for that matter. Bolt's stride makes him deceptively fast, just as while Randy Moss may have been every bit as fast as someone like Chris Johnson, he still had five inches on him and took massive stride, thus not requiring the same stride rate. Stride rate is the naked eye's best indicator of speed when we don't have something else to cross reference it with.

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                • #53
                  Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

                  Remember, they lose 0.01-02 anyway at the end, and relaxing the last couple strides can be almost as good as pushing hard.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Cayman Invitational Wedneday, May 9th

                    Originally posted by eDJon20
                    Originally posted by notorious
                    He ran 9.83 here slowing down at the end. He PR is 9.82 from last year.

                    I predict 9.6 by the time London comes around. Watch out Usain "Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear"(Ato Boldon)
                    If blake could hit 9.6 form in London, imagine what he'll run in the 200? :shock:
                    That was some run....
                    :shock:
                    I hope he runs at Crystal Palace first, because I just got tickets for that.
                    My heart is still in the Caribbean....

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