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  • 26mi235
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    Re: OK folks, rip us to shreds! (T&FN predictions)

    Originally posted by Rye Catcher
    Gliders will kill the spinners in the wet ring. Look for lots of fouls and a winning mark of just over 70' by a non American, most likely a German. USA gets only one medal, Hoffa.
    And it rains 24-hours a day in London?

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  • Alan Shank
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    Originally posted by gh
    Originally posted by Alan Shank
    You don't have SergEy MorgunOv in the top ten, yet he has the longest jump of the year. I know he's a junior, but.......A
    hm..... i distinctly remember noting he was missing at one point and inserting him in the copy.... got lost in in the many revisions I guess.
    I did check today to see whether there was a revision, but there wasn't.
    He doesn't have too much backup to that 8.35, but he did jump 8.20w in May and won the World Junior with 8.09, so he has some international experience this year. Who knows, he may not even make the final, but I just thought it was odd not to see him in there at all.
    Cheers,
    Alan Shank
    Woodland, CA, USA

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  • gh
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    Re: OK folks, rip us to shreds! (T&FN predictions)

    Originally posted by Alan Shank
    You don't have SergEy MorgunOv in the top ten, yet he has the longest jump of the year. I know he's a junior, but.......A
    hm..... i distinctly remember noting he was missing at one point and inserting him in the copy.... got lost in in the many revisions I guess.

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  • Rye Catcher
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    Re: OK folks, rip us to shreds! (T&FN predictions)

    Gliders will kill the spinners in the wet ring. Look for lots of fouls and a winning mark of just over 70' by a non American, most likely a German. USA gets only one medal, Hoffa.

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  • Alan Shank
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    You don't have SergEy MorgunOv in the top ten, yet he has the longest jump of the year. I know he's a junior, but...

    Here are a few that I condsider "US wishful thinking":

    Carter 7th W SP
    Flanagan 4th W MAR
    USA 1st W 4X100
    Huddle 7th W 5000
    Montano 5th W 800
    Johnson 9th M HT

    Cheers,
    Alan Shank
    Woodland, CA, USA

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  • LopenUupunut
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    Originally posted by Powell
    Point is, apart from 2008 she never made it through qualifying at a major championships. In Beijing, she only just scraped through in 11th place before taking the gold, so she obviously has a problem with qualifying rounds. And the quality in depth of women's HT has really improved this year, so she'll likely have to do significantly better this time to make the final.
    Agree with your general point, but just how much has the depth really improved? Perhaps the depth is a bit better now, but not very much... in fact, I'd say Menkova herself has improved more than that!

    IAAF released a provisional startlist for the wHT the other day... comparing that with the entry list from Beijing, we have the following (all stats based on SBs):

                    '12     '08     '08 + 1.37
    Menkova   78.69 77.32 78.69
    #12           74.47 73.50 74.87
    # >74        17      11      16
    # >73        18      14      19
    # >72        23      18      27
    # >71        30      21      37
    # >70        32      36      41 + 1 @ 70.00
    Entrants    39*     50      50
    Q Cut        ????     69.36 70.73

    *actually the list says 40, but the Finnish entry is bogus... I don't know about the other 39 :wink:

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  • Powell
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    Re: OK folks, rip us to shreds! (T&FN predictions)

    Originally posted by AS
    Hmmm, Dani Samuels not in Top 10 for WDT (despite having a Diamond League win this season). Last time TFN left her off a prediction list she won a world title... #justsaying
    I'm not sure she would be in my top 10. Maybe just barely; certainly not in the top 8.

    Originally posted by Marlow
    Unless, of course, the Belarusian already proved she can by winning the Olympics last time.
    Menkova may not win, but since she is the defending champion and leads the world this year, it makes zero sense for her NOT to be the favorite*.
    Point is, apart from 2008 she never made it through qualifying at a major championships. In Beijing, she only just scraped through in 11th place before taking the gold, so she obviously has a problem with qualifying rounds. And the quality in depth of women's HT has really improved this year, so she'll likely have to do significantly better this time to make the final.

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  • AS
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    Hmmm, Dani Samuels not in Top 10 for WDT (despite having a Diamond League win this season). Last time TFN left her off a prediction list she won a world title... #justsaying

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  • Marlow
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    Originally posted by gh
    Belarusians rarely match their gaudy at-home throws.
    Unless, of course, the Belarusian already proved she can by winning the Olympics last time.
    Menkova may not win, but since she is the defending champion and leads the world this year, it makes zero sense for her NOT to be the favorite*.

    * which, of course, she is

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  • Powell
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    Given Menkova's past record, she is potentially capable of winning, but it's more likely she'll go out in qualifying.
    Heidler's had some problems with her technique of late and isn't looking as reliable as in past years, so yeah, I'd go for Lysenko, too.

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  • nevetsllim
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    Originally posted by gh
    My personal choice for the hammer win is Heidler, of course, being undefeated as she is, and knowing that the Belarusians rarely match their gaudy at-home throws.
    Heidler didn't make the final at the Euros (x, x, 65.06m).

    While I don't want to see it, I'd go for Lysenko. As for Menkova. Well, who knows?

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  • gh
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    My personal choice for the hammer win is Heidler, of course, being undefeated as she is, and knowing that the Belarusians rarely match their gaudy at-home throws.

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  • Powell
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    "Walker appears to be over his back back"

    Women's HT looks like you just took the world list for the season, without using any real knowledge of the event. Menkova first? OK, I know she's the defending champ, but still... W?odarczyk sixth, behind Khanafeyeva?

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  • Gabriella
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    Despite her good score this year I would be surprised if Savitskaya came fourth in the heptathlon. As with the Daegu predictions, no Schwarzkopf in the top ten from TFN but I think she can challenge for a top 6 placing.

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  • gh
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    Originally posted by ATK
    ...
    The mens Long jump looks like you picked names from a hat.....
    You mean there was another way?!

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