¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

[dj]

T&FN formchart advancers to final

1. United States
2. Russia
3. Jamaica
4. Great Britain
5. Ukraine
6. Belarus
7. France
8. Czech Republic
9. Brazil
10. Nigeria

[ChuiTai]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

It looks good for US at this point. However it will take an uncooked Richards-Ross/Felix combo to approach the '88 performance, let alone the '93 quartet. Though Trotter & McCorory should match the other relative legs.

[iain]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

There is NO WAY that USA will run anywhere near 3:15. Even if they were good enough (which they aren't IMO) conditions will almost definitely not be favourable. After the 400m final I have to say USA have become clear favourites over Russia, who will probably be scrapping for minor medals with JAM and GB. Probable teams IMO:
USA - Trotter, Felix, McCorory, Richards-Ross
RUS - Gushchina, Antyukh, Firova, Krivoshapka
JAM - Whyte, Spencer, Day, Williams-Mills
GBR - Child, Ohuruogu, McConnell, Shakes-Drayton

[jjimbojames]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

There is NO WAY that USA will run anywhere near 3:15. Even if they were good enough (which they aren't IMO) conditions will almost definitely not be favourable. After the 400m final I have to say USA have become clear favourites over Russia, who will probably be scrapping for minor medals with JAM and GB. Probable teams IMO:
USA - Trotter, Felix, McCorory, Richards-Ross
RUS - Gushchina, Antyukh, Firova, Krivoshapka
JAM - Whyte, Spencer, Day, Williams-Mills
GBR - Child, Ohuruogu, McConnell, Shakes-Drayton

I have a feeling Nicola will be in that line up - reading between the lines, she's running the heats on Friday and has been training with this one race in mind- McConnell's 52+ run has left her vulnerable

[mump boy]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

There is NO WAY that USA will run anywhere near 3:15. Even if they were good enough (which they aren't IMO) conditions will almost definitely not be favourable. After the 400m final I have to say USA have become clear favourites over Russia, who will probably be scrapping for minor medals with JAM and GB. Probable teams IMO:
USA - Trotter, Felix, McCorory, Richards-Ross
RUS - Gushchina, Antyukh, Firova, Krivoshapka
JAM - Whyte, Spencer, Day, Williams-Mills
GBR - Child, Ohuruogu, McConnell, Shakes-Drayton

I have a feeling Nicola will be in that line up - reading between the lines, she's running the heats on Friday and has been training with this one race in mind- McConnell's 52+ run has left her vulnerable

But Lee always raises herb game in a relay, as does Nicola

[ATK]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

With Trotters medal, I think the argument if Demus should be on the relay pretty much ends there.

[j-a-m]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

With Trotters medal, I think the argument if Demus should be on the relay pretty much ends there.

Agreed.

[Pelpa]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

Hope Novleen and company give Sanya and company a good run here.

[t_monk]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

The 4x400 is gonna be very interesting me thinks....

[iain]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

There is NO WAY that USA will run anywhere near 3:15. Even if they were good enough (which they aren't IMO) conditions will almost definitely not be favourable. After the 400m final I have to say USA have become clear favourites over Russia, who will probably be scrapping for minor medals with JAM and GB. Probable teams IMO:
USA - Trotter, Felix, McCorory, Richards-Ross
RUS - Gushchina, Antyukh, Firova, Krivoshapka
JAM - Whyte, Spencer, Day, Williams-Mills
GBR - Child, Ohuruogu, McConnell, Shakes-Drayton

I have a feeling Nicola will be in that line up - reading between the lines, she's running the heats on Friday and has been training with this one race in mind- McConnell's 52+ run has left her vulnerable

Pardon my naïvety, but which lines? I hope Marilyn gets a run, though I doubt she will. We can definitely rest two runners IMO (probably the hurdlers).

[jjimbojames]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

Iain - comments on twitter. Obviously early days still, as I think Child's semi tonight will also be taken into consideration after a poor heat time (though harder to tell with the hurdles in the way!)

PSD will almost certainly be rested as she will (hopefully - have you seen the semi line up!?!?) make the hurdles final. I expect Sanders, Child, McConnell and Cox to be the heat line up, though a little risky, so possibly TBO could run.

[CookyMonzta]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

There is NO WAY that USA will run anywhere near 3:15. Even if they were good enough (which they aren't IMO) conditions will almost definitely not be favourable. After the 400m final I have to say USA have become clear favourites over Russia, who will probably be scrapping for minor medals with JAM and GB. Probable teams IMO:
USA - Trotter, Felix, McCorory, Richards-Ross
RUS - Gushchina, Antyukh, Firova, Krivoshapka
JAM - Whyte, Spencer, Day, Williams-Mills
GBR - Child, Ohuruogu, McConnell, Shakes-Drayton

If the U.K. wants to guarantee themselves a medal (certainly one of a higher grade, let alone any medal) ahead of any one of the other contending teams, they must move Big O. to the anchor leg. She won't be so content to run mid-51 and leave all the responsibility to the anchor. The pressure will be squarely on her to duplicate what she did in the open 400 if you put her on the anchor. The difference between Ohuruogu on the 2nd/3rd leg and the anchor leg could be 2 seconds.

[iain]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

Cooky Monzta, I am inclined to agree. However, most people don't agree. TBH I'm also happy with PSD second CO third if LM and NC are in any sort of form (low 50 split)

[Flumpy]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

If the U.K. wants to guarantee themselves a medal (certainly one of a higher grade, let alone any medal) ahead of any one of the other contending teams, they must move Big O. to the anchor leg. She won't be so content to run mid-51 and leave all the responsibility to the anchor. The pressure will be squarely on her to duplicate what she did in the open 400 if you put her on the anchor. The difference between Ohuruogu on the 2nd/3rd leg and the anchor leg could be 2 seconds.

You don't know much about the history of GB relays teams do you??? :? The chances of TBO having a 2 second differential between 2nd/3rd or anchor is :lol:

The ONLY chance we have of getting a medal if Christine pulling her finger out and running a relay PB by over a 2nd and passing on to Perri on anchor who is a relay beast.

Having said that her coach is head of GB relays. He was made that specifically to make sure she performed after her disastrous relay history. Maybe she'll commit this time and run a time faster than her individual PB (Has there ever been a 400m runner who runs slower in relays???).

[jjimbojames]

Re: 2012 OG: w4x400–

Ordinarily I'd disagree but given the location and her comments last night, I think TBO could do a job on anchor

If so, PSD either needs to lead off so we have a chance of being involved or run 2nd, to make back some ground