¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

[Flumpy]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Let her concentrate on the 400 for a couple of years....or even just one year.....and she'll run close to or better than 47.6!!

I'll stake my life on it!!!

Talk about a death wish!!!

[iain]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Let her concentrate on the 400 for a couple of years....or even just one year.....and she'll run close to or better than 47.6!!

I'll stake my life on it!!!

Talk about a death wish!!!

Like :mrgreen:

[Peter Michaelson]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Flumpy:

I know this came from another thread, but since you are here, I'll ask again here. What does "mampy" mean? I found Urban Dictionary's definitions to be of no help. Thanks!

[notlef70]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

I may be Mr. Obvious here but with regard to SRR's split - it's hard to run fast when you are the only one on the track.

I was wondering when someone would voice the common sense 'fact'. At leg two the US team is trying to bury the opposition. When it works that well, the next two leg well be run well but not extraordinarily fast. I think that it will be very difficult to run 3:14 unless some other team is running 3:15, and that is what we saw when the current WR was run, where a fabulously fast 400m runner was chased by a 21.3x, 10.6 runner.

I agree with all that you said, but there has been at least 1 instance where the men 4x400 race was over by the midpoint of the second leg, but the 3rd/4th leg ran their tails off, with nobody within 40-50 yds of them. Remember the 1993 World Championships, when Andrew Valmon (if i'm not mistaken), Quincy Watts, Butch Reynolds, and MJ (the 1st sub 43 second split)? That race was over by the time QW had ran the 1st 250, but they kept "kicking out" sub 44s, then MJ drops a dang 42.9 split...

[jazzcyclist]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

I may be Mr. Obvious here but with regard to SRR's split - it's hard to run fast when you are the only one on the track.

I was wondering when someone would voice the common sense 'fact'. At leg two the US team is trying to bury the opposition. When it works that well, the next two leg well be run well but not extraordinarily fast. I think that it will be very difficult to run 3:14 unless some other team is running 3:15, and that is what we saw when the current WR was run, where a fabulously fast 400m runner was chased by a 21.3x, 10.6 runner.

I agree with all that you said, but there has been at least 1 instance where the men 4x400 race was over by the midpoint of the second leg, but the 3rd/4th leg ran their tails off, with nobody within 40-50 yds of them. Remember the 1993 World Championships, when Andrew Valmon (if i'm not mistaken), Quincy Watts, Butch Reynolds, and MJ (the 1st sub 43 second split)? That race was over by the time QW had ran the 1st 250, but they kept "kicking out" sub 44s, then MJ drops a dang 42.9 split...

That's what I alluded to earlier. Jeremy Wariner has also dropped a 42.9 under similar circumstances. Some people can time trial and some can't.

[Peter Michaelson]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

When did Wariner split 42.9?

[jjimbojames]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

When did Wariner split 42.9?

42.93 in Osaka, 43.18 in Beijing

[Peter Michaelson]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Does anyone have the Osaka 2007 issue of Track and Field News handy? Checking around, I see some give Wariner 42.93 and some say 43.10, so is there a definitive source or answer? I somehow had it in my head that MJ had the only sub-43 carry and I could be wrong.

[gm]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

43.09 for Wariner in Osaka

[toyracer]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Vote on relay leg of the meet:

a) Felix's 100
b) Jeter's 100
c) Blake's 100
d) Bolt's 100
e) Gatlin's 100
f) Felix's 400

Write-in votes are acceptable

I vote for f) as in Felix's 400.

Nesta Carters 100m lead off leg....

If it really was a 10.1 as gh reported that would be a serious contender. It appears that Carter and Michael were the difference for the team going sub 37.

[iain]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Wariner 43.10
http://www.european-athletics.org/aom/4 ... ccess.html

[jazzcyclist]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

The eTrack newsletter lists Wariner's Osaka split as 43.10 but Alltime-Athletics lists it as 42.93.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m4x400ok.htm

[Alan Shank]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

The eTrack newsletter lists Wariner's Osaka split as 43.10 but Alltime-Athletics lists it as 42.93.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m4x400ok.htm

Might be the same difference as this year with the women's splits: "official" ones showed 47.8, but the ones from Mark Butler 48.2.

OTOH, the Wariner anchor should have been based on the finish-line camera, so how could it be different? There was no one else around at that point.
???
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[ATK]

Re: ¶2012 OG: w4x400–United States 3:16.87 WL

Vote on relay leg of the meet:

a) Felix's 100
b) Jeter's 100
c) Blake's 100
d) Bolt's 100
e) Gatlin's 100
f) Felix's 400

Write-in votes are acceptable

I vote for f) as in Felix's 400.

Nesta Carters 100m lead off leg....

If it really was a 10.1 as gh reported that would be a serious contender. It appears that Carter and Michael were the difference for the team going sub 37.

Yea, I think the splits from the blocks are major accomplishments when they are fast. Sanya running 49.4 last year is extremely impressive.