Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY?? [or Merritt?!]

[dbirds]

Loss may swing AOY race back to Eaton!

[Conor Dary]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

Loss may swing AOY race back to Eaton!

You are late to the party.

[croflash]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

I would still give it to Rudisha, Bolt second, Eaton third.

Really though, Merritt would be deserving as well. Harting has won 32 meets in a row. I don't think there is a definitive argument that Athlete X MUST win.

[marknhj]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

[jazzcyclist]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

You don't put Eaton's WR on par with Rudisha's WR? :?

[Conor Dary]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

You don't put Eaton's WR on par with Rudisha's WR? :?

Eaton's WR was nice, but I wouldn't put it on par with DR's. As noted an unworldly performance.

[marknhj]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

You don't put Eaton's WR on par with Rudisha's WR? :?

I think that the nature of the events makes it an apples and oranges comparison. However, an individual WR is significantly superior in merit to a multi-event WR, in my opinion. By definition, no human has ever done that one thing better.

[jeremyp]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

Don't forget that the AOY rankings are not held to the rigid set of rules as are the event rankings. Over the years we have seen weird rankings. American rankers are bound to favor Eaton now that Rudisha lost in a fast race. I give the nod to Eaton myself, as he did it all. 2 WR's an Olympic gold, and total supremacy over rivals.

[Half Miler]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

FWIW, using the IAAF tables, Eaton's WR is worth 1270 points, Rudisha's WR 1296.

[Conor Dary]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

FWIW, using the IAAF tables, Eaton's WR is worth 1270 points, Rudisha's WR 1296.

Well that may be true. But it misses the point of what marknhj is making.

[Half Miler]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

Wasn't responding directly to marknhj, or taking sides, just adding data to the discussion.

[marknhj]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

Wasn't responding directly to marknhj, or taking sides, just adding data to the discussion.

Does anyone (beyond the obsessive compulsive T&F excel addicts) actually take those comparative point tables seriously? I think they're a joke. (btw - not a shot at you, 804.672m-er)

[aaronk]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

You don't put Eaton's WR on par with Rudisha's WR? :?

Eaton's WR was nice, but I wouldn't put it on par with DR's. As noted an unworldly performance.

Eaton and Ennis for AOY's!!!
Multi's RULE!!

Eaton broke a WR that had stood for 11 years.
Rudisha broke a WR that had stood for less than TWO years!!
And THAT record had broken a WR that had been set just one WEEK earlier!!

Sorry, but it seems to me that the Dec WR was a much more difficult target.

Eaton wins the battle of the WR's!!
(Now, if Rudisha had run 1:39.99 tonight.......!!!)

[marknhj]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

To me, a multi-eventer, no matter how good, should never supersede an athlete who has produced an otherworldly individual event performance and season.

You don't put Eaton's WR on par with Rudisha's WR? :?

Eaton's WR was nice, but I wouldn't put it on par with DR's. As noted an unworldly performance.

Eaton and Ennis for AOY's!!!
Multi's RULE!!

Reasonable level club athletes would beat them at most events though! However, I agree Eaton's 8.21m and Ennis' 12.54 were damn good performances

[dbirds]

Re: Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY??

I agree...Sebrle's WR was amazing and had not been challenged since he set it in 2001. Not only was Eaton's 2 performances very impressive, some of his individual marks (in and out of the deca) were phenomenal as well.

Ennis has a strong case as well although you have to look at Adams, Felix, etc.

Reasonable level club athletes would beat them at most events though! However, I agree Eaton's 8.21m and Ennis' 12.54 were damn good performances

I guarantee you...no one individual or club athlete would beat Eaton in more than 2 decathlon events!