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  • gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

    In the last few months we are witnessing a continues cyber attacks on this site in the image of new topics that promise us a cheap Viagra nude picture of various people, saving costs and so on. While usually I have nothing against these topics it is (surprise surprise) not the reason why I visit this forum.

    In order to stop this cyber attack I suggest that gh will establish a status of a golden member. Only golden members will be allowed to post new topics whereas regular members will only be allow to post replies on existing topics.

    All users that joined the community before the cyber attacks begun will automatically become golden members. New members will have to wait two months and post at least 10 posts (T&F related) before they receive their golden status. By then gh can weed out most of the trolls.

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    Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

    Even putting on a 10-post minimum (or two) before starting a thread would help. However, there is also a string of comments with links as well. This actually creates the problem that I do not know if a topic with new posts includes real or ad postings, even if I look at the most recent poster.

    Maybe a broader group of posters could be given authority to suspend a topic into a waiting bin where the true mods can ax them, but that might not be feasible on this kind of software.

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    • #3
      Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

      How about a waiting period to be able to comment on posts. And a longer one to be able to create your own threads. And, since the software is not likely to be real smart, passing some sort of track and field exam before doing so.

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      • #4
        Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

        LetsRun uses a question such as "which one of the is not an American runner?" There are about ten choices; while this might seem a little American-centric, the right answer is Haile Geb.

        If you paired this with: ask another question instead, then 1 in 10 is a pretty good filter. A two-layer test drops this to 1 in 100.

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        • #5
          Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

          Please keep in mind that the message board software is just a standard phpBB package and most of those ideas are not possible within the software. It's always hard to find the right balance between things that will keep bots away, versus driving the existing users crazy.

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          • #6
            Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

            Per the phpbb website, captcha is probably the best bet https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=2122696

            Of course, this is a pain in the neck for everyone....

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            • #7
              Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

              Originally posted by polevaultpower
              Please keep in mind that the message board software is just a standard phpBB package and most of those ideas are not possible within the software. It's always hard to find the right balance between things that will keep bots away, versus driving the existing users crazy.
              I'm currently involved in a cricket messageboard which is a phpBB package, and we had a two-post or three-post pre-moderation facility for new posters. It just meant that mods and admins would busily trawl through new posts to either approve them or disapprove and ban spammers. But it does make the messageboard much cleaner for its users....

              It still does not keep bots away....

              I'm an admin for both of these sites:

              http://www.cricket-match-special.com/

              http://www.windiesfans.com/forums/index ... 34af1511a9

              The first has changed its policy so that all new posters have to be approved by admins before they can start posting. The second has an automatic registration, but the first two posts have to be approved by admins before they appear on the board. Both strategies have effectively prevented spam from appearing on the board.

              I can offer further advice if needed, because this is my favourite athletics messageboard....
              My heart is still in the Caribbean....

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              • #8
                Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                CAPTCHAs do next to nothing against bots. We have one in place at registration. They just annoy humans. Adding custom programs is risky because they often don't work when you upgrade the bb software.

                Requiring admins to approve new members is a LOT of work when there are probably over 100 bots attempting to join the board daily, the result is that there would often be a big delay for new members, and frankly it's not always easy to tell human from bot, it's not a foolproof system.

                It's not _my_ message board, it's up to gh how he wants to deal with things. I just help delete the spam and the bots. Just trying to give you all some insight as to why it's not always as simple as do this or that.

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                • #9
                  Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                  A variety of Captcha I've seen that is simple but works is an image that has the question "Are you human?" The user has to type "yes" and then you can post.

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                  • #10
                    Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                    as pvp notes, it's a multi-layered problem with no easy way out. One company we have been working with on other things on the site steadfastly refuses to have anything to do with phpBB because they say it can consume far too much of their time.

                    So we muddle on. Stricter signups coming into play; hopefully not without alienating people.

                    The sad reality, of course, is that so relatively few people avail themselves of chatting here, it's not worth throwing a fortune in the way of our meager resources at the problem.

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                    • #11
                      Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                      just ignore the pests and maybe they'll go away

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                      • #12
                        Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                        Originally posted by meatball
                        just ignore the pests and maybe they'll go away
                        Yeah, that works so well for coackroaches and termites!

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                        • #13
                          Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                          "they" won't ever go away because it's not humans; it's bots, which constantly troll the entire e-verse finding places to lay their eggs.

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                          • #14
                            Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                            At another board I am on, the administrators made a few people moderators that had the power to delete posts. These guys were trusted to delete objectionable material and it works very well.

                            I would be happy to volunteer, but I don't know that I have established the kind of trust required. I haven't really posted much even though I was on the board back when it was blue. I have had to create new idenities twice on this color as my name vanished/stopped working (losing about total of 200 post count for Pentathlete and Pentathlete2). I'm usually on in the evening PST. I see at least one good post that needs deleting right now.

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                            • #15
                              Re: gh - how to fight the on line onslaught on this site?

                              speaking of these boards, why does my left margin ad (a city street) take up 1/3 of the monitor now?! :shock:

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