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  • #31
    Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

    Originally posted by ATK
    Also is there video of her jump?
    Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3yb8ryjtpc

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    • #32
      Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

      It may be an improvenment but it's still atrocious !!

      Imagine if she actually had a leg shoot :shock:
      i deserve extra credit

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      • #33
        Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

        Originally posted by mump boy
        It may be an improvenment but it's still atrocious !!

        Imagine if she actually had a leg shoot :shock:
        She's just like Marion Jones; high trajectory but stiff and a poor leg shoot. But, as with Jones, I would stick with the technique she knows. When Jones tried to improve technically her distances went backwards. I suspect because it didn't feel natural to her, but then again she was primarily a sprinter. At least Reese can focus totally on her event. Reese also looks lighter than Jones.

        The LJ could be a great competition in Moscow. Sokolova's performance here in Doha was also good considering the Europeans and Russians in particular don't tend to start so early and so strong. Perhaps we'll see all 3 medalists over 7m? Hell, we may even find 7.00 isn't enough to medal! Now that would be super.

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        • #34
          Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

          Originally posted by Gabriella
          Perhaps we'll see all 3 medalists over 7m? Hell, we may even find 7.00 isn't enough to medal! Now that would be super.
          I think that you may be right; there are a number of candidates for 7-meter jumps.

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          • #35
            Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

            Her leg shoot is not that bad on this jump, angles are deceiving. Reese is already one of the greats in my opinion (based on my ignoring the performance list above her, which is almost entirely bogus).

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            • #36
              Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

              This is a leg shoot

              http://www.wheremilan.com/site/wp-conte ... na-May.jpg
              i deserve extra credit

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              • #37
                Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                Originally posted by mump boy
                I suggest you take a look at a screen shot of her landing on this jump. Of course she's not the best technician, and she lands standing up on occasion, but I suspect she'll get more return by improving her run-up and take-off phase. But she's an absolute natural (aka stating the bleedin' obvious), and sometimes absolute naturals just do what they're going to do.

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                • #38
                  Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                  Of course but it's frustrating when someone with so much talent makes do with bad technique

                  We could have a WR holder on our hands with a JJK/Heike/Fiona type proficiency.

                  Nobody corrected it earlier because she was winning and it's probably too late now to expect any major improvements because she's still winning

                  I actually want her to be consistently beaten so she will be forced to do something about it
                  i deserve extra credit

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                  • #39
                    Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                    As I said in an earlier post, her 'lack of leg extension' is somewhat due to a vastly superior penultimate step and a high, powerful take-off. The checking of forward momentum has to be paid for somewhere and BR does it so well at takeoff, it's very hard to get her torso forward enough to bring the legs up fully. The hip angle is set at takeoff and hers is optimized for a high fast trajectory. All things being equal, I'd much rather have her great take-off and 'mediocre' landing than a superb landing with less power and angle at take-off. It's really hard to have your cake and eat it too, though Heike Dreschler managed it. Mike Powell was a hot mess at times, but boy could he take off! Carl Lewis was a line drive compared to him (though a pretty fast one! :wink: )

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                    • #40
                      Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                      I think she's fine now. Her hang technique has improved, she better balanced in mid-air. Her landing technique has improved substantially.

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                      • #41
                        Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                        Originally posted by gh

                        Methinks she's doing somehing a little bit right.
                        Undoubtedly but she could be doing it so much better, which is why I find her so frustrating.

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                        • #42
                          Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                          Originally posted by Flumpy
                          Originally posted by gh

                          Methinks she's doing somehing a little bit right.
                          Undoubtedly but she could be doing it so much better...
                          Sorry, but you just don't know that to be true. The landing portion of a LJ is probably the last thing to worry about, as my good friend Marlow outlined earlier.

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                          • #43
                            Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                            Originally posted by gm
                            Originally posted by Flumpy
                            Originally posted by gh

                            Methinks she's doing somehing a little bit right.
                            Undoubtedly but she could be doing it so much better...
                            Sorry, but you just don't know that to be true. The landing portion of a LJ is probably the last thing to worry about, as my good friend Marlow outlined earlier.
                            When a woman jumps 725, she must be doing a lot of things right.
                            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                            • #44
                              Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                              Originally posted by Pego
                              Originally posted by gm
                              Originally posted by Flumpy
                              Originally posted by gh

                              Methinks she's doing somehing a little bit right.
                              Undoubtedly but she could be doing it so much better...
                              Sorry, but you just don't know that to be true. The landing portion of a LJ is probably the last thing to worry about, as my good friend Marlow outlined earlier.
                              When a woman jumps 725, she must be doing a lot of things right.
                              Or be outrageously talented.
                              i deserve extra credit

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                              • #45
                                Re: ¶Doha DL: wLJ—Reese 23-9½ (7.25) WL

                                Originally posted by mump boy
                                Of course but it's frustrating when someone with so much talent makes do with bad technique

                                We could have a WR holder on our hands with a JJK/Heike/Fiona type proficiency.

                                Nobody corrected it earlier because she was winning and it's probably too late now to expect any major improvements because she's still winning

                                I actually want her to be consistently beaten so she will be forced to do something about it
                                Go read the post by lonewolf. if you do not understand why this jump by Reese is pretty efficient go read that post until you understand it. He has pointed out that many jumpers with the position shown in your picture end up falling back and losing more distance than if their legs were under them.

                                By the way, if you think that you know more about this than lonewolf I won't bother reading any of your posts about track and field technique.

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