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  • Oxy (2013) w-1.500m: 12 under 4.10, Cain HSR

    Race time: 20.05 PST
    Watch live here

    MR: 4.05,92 Shannon Rowbury Nike 2012
    Contestants:

    Cat Beck—CPTC New Balance
    Sarah Brown—New Balance
    Stephanie Brown—Arkansas
    Zoe Buckman—Nike
    Mary Cain—Unattached
    Laura Carlyle—Bowerman Athletic Cl
    Jamie Cheever—Brooks/Team USA MN
    Rachel Cliff—Vancouver Thunderbir
    Emma Coburn—Colorado
    Kim Conley—New Balance/SRA
    Bridget Franek—Nike/OTC Elite
    Kerri Gallagher—Pacers New Balance
    Cristina Guevara—MEXICO
    Lauren Hagans—ASICS
    Susan Kuijken—Nike
    Violah Lagat—Adidas
    Julia Lucas—Nike/OTC Elite
    Katie Mackey—Brooks Beast
    Pilar McShine—Trinidad & Tobago
    Dana Mecke—San Antonio Elite
    Ashley Miller—Asics
    Jessica O'Connell—University of Calgar
    Aisha Praught—Nike/OTC Elite
    Melissa Salerno—New Balance
    Nicole Schappert—Saucony
    Nicole Sifuentes—Saucony
    Jemma Simpson—Nike/OTC Elite
    Hilary Stellingwerff—Speed River/New Bala
    Danielle Tauro—NJNYTC
    Callie Thomas—Unattached
    Renee Tomlin—Nike/NJNYTC
    Amy Van Alstine—adidas-McMillan Elit
    Kate Van Buskirk—Athletics Toronto/Br
    Heather Wilson NJNYTC

  • #2
    Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

    The pacer for the race with Mary Cain will take it out in 2:10.0!
    At the same pace through to the finish, that's sub-4:04.0 pace for 1500!!

    Right now, upon hearing this, I don't give a flying donut's worth of crap if people think I'm "obsessed" or acting "creepy" about Cain.....

    I AM THRILLED!!!!!

    And I guarantee you, she will be right in the thick of it!
    There is no way, barring disaster (a fall, a broken leg, etc), that she will finish last.....or even out of the top 5!!

    I predict she WILL get the "A" standard.
    As will at least 1 or 2 others.

    There, I said it!!

    Now on to the other runners, and the other races!!

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    • #3
      Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

      Other than Cain, I'll be most interested to see what the 3 SC specialists do over 1500.

      Of the 3, I think Emma Coburn has the fastest 1500 PR, a 4:09.
      Then I guess would come Bridget Franek and Jamie Cheever, with the latter being the most unknown quantity.

      I wonder if Coburn might try for the WC in the 1500....if she gets an "A" here.

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      • #4
        Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

        Coburn is way down the US chart in the 1500 while having only one or two challengers in the SC she has the AL one of her to biggest challengers is a training mate.

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        • #5
          Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

          2013 USA top-5 leaders: 4.03,35 Jenny Simpson | 4.04,86 Brenda Martinez | 4.05,41 Gabriele Anderson | 4.06,40 Treniere Moser | 4.08,24 Kate Grace

          Standards:

          A: 4.05,50 | B: 4.09,00

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          • #6
            Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

            aaronk...I think Mary Cain is still steadily improving...but the A standard is not realistic for her yet. I think, w/ the right pace though, she could do 4:07-8. Having said that, I hope I'm wrong and you are right.

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            • #7
              Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

              Originally posted by lovetorun
              aaronk...I think Mary Cain is still steadily improving...but the A standard is not realistic for her yet. I think, w/ the right pace though, she could do 4:07-8. Having said that, I hope I'm wrong and you are right.
              I don't want to get into a drawn-out Cain discussion here......been there, done that! .....but I will say that my hopes for Cain tonight are based on a couple of factors:

              1. Before the Millrose Games, Salazar said she was in "4:25 shape" (for the mile). She ran 4:28.25, and was timed enroute at 1500 in 4:11.72. IF she had run 4:25, she probably would've been at about 4:08 at 1500. Thus, based on Salazar's observation, you could say Cain was in 4:08 1500 shape then....3 months ago!

              2. She ran her poorest race yet at Drake, yet still got the HSR, and finished mid-field. Then she ran that 2:01.68 (even if not fully legal!) at Re-RUN, in which she ran almost even pace (about 60.5 and 61.2), and closed hard, just missing catching Treniere Moser!!. The pacer will go 2:10 through 800. Cain should be right there, maybe 2:11 or 2:12......or right behind the pacer. From there, it's up to her!! I think she WANTS the "A".....and I think Salazar wants it too......otherwise, why put her in a "A" chasing race......a race SET UP for an "A" chase??

              But one can only hope, eh?? :wink:

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              • #8
                Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                Originally posted by 26mi235
                Coburn is way down the US chart in the 1500 while having only one or two challengers in the SC she has the AL one of her to biggest challengers is a training mate.
                Well, she did do a 4:29 mile indoors. But she should stick to the steeple, where she might be able to run the 9:15 or so needed to be competitive internationally.

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                • #9
                  Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                  The steeple should be her primary event, but she needs to run the 1500 and 3000/5000 as well, the former for speed.

                  You cannot race that many steeples in a season and for the top ones they have a minimum of five steeples 1 qualifying mark, heats/Final USATF, heats/Final WC. That is not counting doing any DL meets (except right at first to get the qualifying mark. If you have to chase the "A" standard it is even more.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                    Here's my Mary Cain 1500M (perfect race) prediction:
                    400M splits: 65-66-67 last 300M in 48 for a 2:06

                    Moser ran a 4:06 1500 M recently and Cain is in equal shape....there was very little difference between them in the Re-Run 800M.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                      Originally posted by ExRun
                      Here's my Mary Cain 1500M (perfect race) prediction:
                      400M splits: 65-66-67 last 300M in 48 for a 2:06
                      Ha! Your math is worse than mine!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                        by the way, for 1.500m, I'm guessing every woman in the field not only breaks 4 minutes, I think they'll break 4 seconds. No, wait, make that 2 seconds, if they react to the gun well :mrgreen:

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                        • #13
                          Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                          Any predictions on when Mary Cain will cure cancer, develop cold fusion and invent an FTL stardrive?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                            Next week.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Oxy (2013) w-1.500m

                              Originally posted by JumboElliott
                              Next week.
                              Well...she is 17. Let's not rush the kid.

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