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  • #2
    Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

    no habla . . .

    but I've always felt bad for Myricks, who, if he were jumping today, would be dominating, but thrown in with Powell and Lewis, he was often over-shadowed.

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    • #3
      Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

      now if u jump over 820 u are a medal contender. over 850 a stud !

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      • #4
        Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

        Only problem is that Myricks tended to choke when it counted in the major championships. I suspect he would still find a way to lose. His record otherwise was very impressive however, particularly in terms of consistency and longevity.

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        • #5
          Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

          Originally posted by tm71
          now if u jump over 820 u are a medal contender. over 850 a stud !
          820+ jumpers were medal contenders back then as well (case in point: Gary Honey). In the Myricks-Lewis era, there was only one major meet where somebody jumped 820 and didn't medal (Haaf was 4th in Tokyo '91 with 822).

          Beyond #3, all the best marks for place are not from the Myricks-Lewis era, but rather from the late 90s and early 00s. That was a much better era depth-wise, it just lacked the very top end (read: Lewis).

          Even today the depth is good, we're just missing the very top end even more than we did ten years ago. If you kept all other results from OG '12 the same but added Lewis with ~860 as #1 it could easily pass for a global champs from the eighties.

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          • #6
            Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

            Originally posted by Rog
            Only problem is that Myricks tended to choke when it counted in the major championships. I suspect he would still find a way to lose. His record otherwise was very impressive however, particularly in terms of consistency and longevity.
            Yeah, 2 World Indoor Golds, Olympic bronze and 2 WC bronzes during the Lewis/Powell era; what a stiff! (the LA '84 4th is an ugly one, though)

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            • #7
              Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

              Originally posted by gh
              Originally posted by Rog
              Only problem is that Myricks tended to choke when it counted in the major championships. I suspect he would still find a way to lose. His record otherwise was very impressive however, particularly in terms of consistency and longevity.
              Yeah, 2 World Indoor Golds, Olympic bronze and 2 WC bronzes during the Lewis/Powell era; what a stiff! (the LA '84 4th is an ugly one, though)
              The peak of Myricks' career was his World Cup Gold in 1979 where he jumped just shy of 28 feet to convincingly beat the young up and coming German. That jump was probably the best sea level 0 wind jump up to that time. The guy was an immense talent, would have thrived in any sport of his choice. Born in 1956, he was really not the same generation as Carl Lewis (Born 1961).

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              • #8
                Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                Originally posted by gh
                Originally posted by Rog
                Only problem is that Myricks tended to choke when it counted in the major championships. I suspect he would still find a way to lose. His record otherwise was very impressive however, particularly in terms of consistency and longevity.
                Yeah, 2 World Indoor Golds, Olympic bronze and 2 WC bronzes during the Lewis/Powell era; what a stiff! (the LA '84 4th is an ugly one, though)
                After his performance in the 88 OG trials, his 88 OG bronze was a failure. He was capable of 8.70/8.80 but he got nowhere near that. In 84 he was again below form and didn't medal when silver and bronze were won with jumps about a foot below his capability at the time. He didn't even make the US team in 83 for the Worlds. On all these occasions he was up against Carl Lewis and on all these occasions he jumped below the best of his ability by about a foot. The Indoor titles don't have the status of the outdoor championships by any account, nor was Lewis there.

                I know success and failure is relative to level of ability, but based on ability he should have massed 2 Olympic and 1 World silver, plus a World bronze, in the 80s. I'm not dissing Larry Myricks - I liked him too, and he was a massive talent at both LJ and the 200. His medal collection doesn't do him justice though.

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                • #9
                  Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                  Originally posted by Rog
                  Originally posted by gh
                  Originally posted by Rog
                  Only problem is that Myricks tended to choke when it counted in the major championships. I suspect he would still find a way to lose. His record otherwise was very impressive however, particularly in terms of consistency and longevity.
                  Yeah, 2 World Indoor Golds, Olympic bronze and 2 WC bronzes during the Lewis/Powell era; what a stiff! (the LA '84 4th is an ugly one, though)
                  After his performance in the 88 OG trials, his 88 OG bronze was a failure. He was capable of 8.70/8.80 but he got nowhere near that. In 84 he was again below form and didn't medal when silver and bronze were won with jumps about a foot below his capability at the time. He didn't even make the US team in 83 for the Worlds. On all these occasions he was up against Carl Lewis and on all these occasions he jumped below the best of his ability by about a foot. The Indoor titles don't have the status of the outdoor championships by any account, nor was Lewis there.

                  I know success and failure is relative to level of ability, but based on ability he should have massed 2 Olympic and 1 World silver, plus a World bronze, in the 80s. I'm not dissing Larry Myricks - I liked him too, and he was a massive talent at both LJ and the 200. His medal collection doesn't do him justice though.
                  I have no idea how he can be judge on anything after 1984 when he was 28 years old and 32 by the time Seoul 1988 comes around. If any event requires the physiology of youth it is the long jump. Had he competed in Moscow he likely would have won in a great duel.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                    Originally posted by user4
                    I have no idea how he can be judge on anything after 1984 when he was 28 years old and 32 by the time Seoul 1988 comes around. If any event requires the physiology of youth it is the long jump. Had he competed in Moscow he likely would have won in a great duel.
                    Except that he faces the unusual counter-example of Lewis, five years his junior, who also probably came along just enough later that his career was more profitable. Note that I think Lewis was in the 1979 World Cup, although if I remember correctly he did not have a very good competition (just sprints? he was pretty young).

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                    • #11
                      Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                      Had the great pleasure 1988 of watching Myricks and Lewis pop 8.50 after 8.50 in the rain at the Indianapolis OT's. Lewis jumped 28'9" during a storm to edge Myricks, who jumped 28'7".

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                      • #12
                        Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                        Was that the year of the mythical 9m jump that was called a (very narrow?) foul. Now that lonewolf posts here, does he have any comments about that competition?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                          Originally posted by 26mi235
                          Was that the year of the mythical 9m jump that was called a (very narrow?) foul. Now that lonewolf posts here, does he have any comments about that competition?
                          That was in Indianapolis in 1982. Not mythical. It was very likely over 30ft, 30-2 lewis thought.
                          No mark in the plastacine. But an official blew it, claimed to see the tip of the shoe over the line.
                          It was never measured and the pit got raked. This has been discussed here several times. One other competitor, Jason Grimes, I believe was certain it was over 30ft.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                            Myrick's didn't choke so much as simply being slightly overmatched by the best jumpers of all time.
                            At Montreal in '76 I was watching closely in the stands as the long jumpers warmed up fully expecting that the then-young Myricks would win. I was dumbstruck when Myricks ran through an approach and then hobbled away with what turned out to be a broken bone in his foot. I figured that the future of the long jump had just suffered a career ending injury but Myricks continued on for another 15 years of world class jumping.
                            As a footnote, here is how the OGs have changed... later that evening while riding the Montreal subway we saw little Randy Williams walking through a metro station all by himself fresh from his 2nd place finish still wearing his USA sweats and clutching the good luck stuffed bear he used to take everywhere. Total accessibility as crowds of people greeted him and shook hands.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Larry Myricks ( 272 > 8,20 ) C.Lewis ( 64>8,50)....

                              Originally posted by Per Andersen
                              Originally posted by 26mi235
                              Was that the year of the mythical 9m jump that was called a (very narrow?) foul. Now that lonewolf posts here, does he have any comments about that competition?
                              That was in Indianapolis in 1982. Not mythical. It was very likely over 30ft, 30-2 lewis thought.
                              No mark in the plastacine. But an official blew it, claimed to see the tip of the shoe over the line.
                              It was never measured and the pit got raked. This has been discussed here several times. One other competitor, Jason Grimes, I believe was certain it was over 30ft.
                              Is there film of that jump on the web - I've never seen it.

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