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  • Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

    Major domino potential here:

    http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-tra ... 13aaa.html

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    Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

    This is huge indeed. IMO, this is the second best job in the nation behind the Oregon job.

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    • #3
      Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

      Originally posted by jazzcyclist
      This is huge indeed. IMO, this is the second best job in the nation behind the Oregon job.
      I'm not even so sure it's 2nd-best.

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      • #4
        Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

        A week for retirements, first Nuttycombe at Wisconsin and now Thorton at Texas.

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        • #5
          Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

          Originally posted by 26mi235
          A week for retirements, first Nuttycombe at Wisconsin and now Thorton at Texas.
          Don't forget Ron Allice at USC.

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          • #6
            Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

            Originally posted by KevinM
            Originally posted by jazzcyclist
            This is huge indeed. IMO, this is the second best job in the nation behind the Oregon job.
            I'm not even so sure it's 2nd-best.
            Which would you put #2?

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            • #7
              Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

              Schools that are competitive in all three sports.

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              • #8
                Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                Originally posted by jazzcyclist
                Originally posted by KevinM
                Originally posted by jazzcyclist
                This is huge indeed. IMO, this is the second best job in the nation behind the Oregon job.
                I'm not even so sure it's 2nd-best.
                Which would you put #2?
                Sorry - I meant that I'm not sure Oregon is a clear #1 (i.e., UT might be a better job with regard to ability to win national meets).

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                • #9
                  Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                  To win all 3 I would put Arkansas over Texas

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                  • #10
                    Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                    Originally posted by batonless relay
                    To win all 3 I would put Arkansas over Texas
                    Based on past results, sure. I'm talking about potential.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                      Originally posted by KevinM
                      Originally posted by batonless relay
                      To win all 3 I would put Arkansas over Texas
                      Based on past results, sure. I'm talking about potential.
                      That's what I'm talking about too. Also, Arkansas is still not a combined program and they've never really been a major player on the women's side. I would rather have a program capable of winning both men's and women's championships than one that was capable of winning the triple crown. Oregon is the only program that is both triple-crown capable and both-gender capable.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                        Some of Lance Harter's late-90s/early 2000s teams were definitely major players in both XC and track.

                        Edit: They actually just won a trophy indoors (4th) and placed 8th outdoors (in addition to 18th in XC).

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                        • #13
                          Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                          Originally posted by KevinM
                          Some of Lance Harter's late-90s/early 2000s teams were definitely major players in both XC and track.
                          Agreed. And, they're still a better program than Texas today on the Women's side and there is no reason why that can't continue.

                          2012 XC:
                          1 Oregon 2 3 28 32 49 77 126 114
                          18 Arkansas 41 72 85 109 142 160 175 449;
                          25 Texas 16 43 118 166 183 209 213 526

                          2013 Indoor:
                          1) Oregon 56
                          4) Arkansas 42.5
                          18) Texas 12

                          2013 Outdoor:
                          3 Oregon 43.0
                          8 Arkansas 30.0
                          15 Texas 18.0

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                          • #14
                            Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                            Well today's results for the Texas women's team was kind of hit by the Bev issue. They lost their star runner Allison Peter who would have helped racked a good number of points along w/ another scorer missing from the NCAA. Texas could be very balanced if the program is managed well.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Thornton to retire, UT programs to be combined

                              Originally posted by batonless relay
                              Agreed. And, they're still a better program than Texas today on the Women's side and there is no reason why that can't continue.
                              Ignore current results for a second - do you really think the advantages at Arkansas are superior to those at Texas? Think budget, in-state talent, name recognition, location...

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