¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

[bruce3404]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

3:50, the new 4 minute mile.

[ed gee]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

No, 17th place was 3:56.86 at ISTAF in '97.

[Fortius19]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

16 men broke 4:00 for the mile in one race. Is that any kind of record?

[gh]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

en route 1500s

1. Augustine Choge (Ken) 3:35.10; 2. Ayanleh Souleiman (Dji) 3:35.37; 3. James Magut (Ken) 3:35.68; 4. Daniel Kipchirchir Komen (Ken) 3:35.88; 5. Galen Rupp (US) 3:36.69; 6. Collins Cheboi (Ken) 3:36.70; 7. Mohamed Moustaoui (Mor) 3:36.93; 8. Andy Bayer (US) 3:37.14; 9. Garrett Heath (US) 3:37.15; 10. David Torrence (US) 3:37.35; 11. Jordan McNamara (US) 3:37.50; 12. Lee Emanuel (GB) 3:38.04; 13. Charlie Grice (GB) 3:38.69; 14. Henrik Ingebrigtsen (Nor) 3:38.86; 15. Matthew Centrowitz (US) 3:40.86; 16. Andreas Vojta (Aut) 3:41.78; 17. Jake Wightman (GB) 3:44.53.

[bruce3404]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Centrowitz's inconsistency is starting to look a bit like Manzano's...

BINGO! I posted that elsewhere....we're getting the good Matt and the bad Matt. Up until earlier this season, I'd never seen him quit in races, but one can point to Manzano's last race before the Olympics last year when he ran around 4:00 for a mile, so all is not lost. Very possible that this was simply a tune up for Moscow....a hard 1320 and then coast?

[lovetorun]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Centrowitz's inconsistency is starting to look a bit like Manzano's...

[Alan Shank]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Centrowitz' last three: DNF, 3:33.58 SB (8), 3:58.75 (16) -- last 120 17.89!
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

On the positive side he did break the four-minute mile :shock:

How many is that now? Surely T&F News is keeping track of all American sub-fours, not just performers!! >:-)
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

[booond]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Centrowitz' last three: DNF, 3:33.58 SB (8), 3:58.75 (16) -- last 120 17.89!
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

On the positive side he did break the four-minute mile :shock:

[Alan Shank]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Again, confusion on the part of Storey/Hutchings as to what the first split was. 400? 440y? Candy mint? Breath mint? You're both wrong; it's a suppository! (Remember that one?)

I was trying to split Souleiman, whom I considered the favorite, but it's pretty hopeless to get 440 y splits in a TV race. These are ballpark, anyway: 55.2, 1:54.2 (59.0), 2:53.5 (59.3). They gave Som's "400" as 54.76, which is really ~409, so too fast, then dropped way off 2nd & 3rd laps. If these guys want to run well under 3:50, they have to keep the pace up in the middle.

Hell of a run by Choge, who is off'n'on, and Souleiman almost got there. Also good races by Magut and Komen; this last got all his best marks between '05 and '07, including two sub-3:49s and two sub-3:30s.

Centrowitz' last three: DNF, 3:33.58 SB (8), 3:58.75 (16) -- last 120 17.89!
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA

[Master Po]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

Charlie Grice (GBR) PB of 3:54.61 (=3:37.23) also seems worth noting, in part because he's still just 19yo., and in part because, converted, it also surpasses his 3:38.13 PB (Hengelo 2013).

[Master Po]

Re: ¶Emsley Carr Mile- CHOGE 3:50.01 PB

^ Yes.

Some further notes, to put these in each athlete's "comprehensive, converted" context (and hoping, as usual, I did the math correctly):

Rupp 3:52.11 = 3:34.91
He has a couple of faster times, 3:50.92i (=3:33.81) from early this year; and 3:34.75 (Oxy, 2012). Those noted (and recognizing as well that, no, he isn't Mo Farah), this performance seems pretty good (to me), in relation to his 10k/5k preparation.

McNamara 3:52.42 = 3:35.20
He has just one faster, from earlier this summer, so this one is high on his list.

Torrence 3:52.74 = 3:35.50
His resume is a bit deeper than these others (save Rupp), so he has in addition to his 3:34.19 three others in the 3:34-3:35 range. (And I really wish he could/would have the opportunity to really go for a fast 5k, or even a fast 10k, should one ever be run again anywhere.)

Bayer 3:52.90 = 3:35.64
He has just one faster, 3:34.47, from earlier this summer. This is just the second time he has been under 3:36 or its equivalent. (And yes, I agree w earlier post that he should have been given the opportunity to be in the USATF 5k.)

Heath 3:53.15 = 3:35.87
Also just one faster, 3:34.12, and also just the second time under 3:36 or its equivalent.

[kuha]

Re: London Emsley Carr Mile

03:52.11 USA oPB RUPP Galen
03:52.42 USA PB MCNAMARA Jordan
03:52.74 USA SB TORRENCE David
03:52.90 USA PB BAYER Andrew
03:53.15 USA PB HEATH Garrett

This is impressive.

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London Emsley Carr Mile

Can't believe there is no thread on this. Maybe I missed it but.. Rupp has only an outdoor PR; it is silly for the IAAF not to include indoor marks, since they are universally harder than on the 400 tracks. While not placing high Bayer hits 3:52.90, a great time for the college Academic All-American who is one of those denied the opportunity to run the 5000 at the Trials. Anyone else think that a 5000 guy that can run a 3:52 was a worthy entry?

03:50.01 KEN PB CHOGE Augustine Kiprono
03:50.07 DJI NR SOULEIMAN Ayanleh
03:50.93 KEN SB MAGUT James Kiplagat
03:51.28 KEN SB KOMEN Daniel Kipchirchir
03:52.11 USA oPB RUPP Galen
03:52.42 MAR MOUSTAOUI Mohamed
03:52.42 USA PB MCNAMARA Jordan
03:52.74 USA SB TORRENCE David
03:52.90 USA PB BAYER Andrew
03:53.15 USA PB HEATH Garrett
03:53.5 KEN CHEBOI Collins
03:54.5 NOR SB INGEBRIGTSEN Henrik
03:54.6 GBR PB GRICE Charlie
03:54.8 GBR PB EMANUEL Lee
03:58.6 AUT VOJTA Andreas
03:58.7 USA CENTROWITZ Matthew
04:00.6 GBR WIGHTMAN Jake

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Re: Emsley Carr Mile

The listing of marks borders on being silly. No 1500 marks either directly or converted, and no indoor marks, if better.

[Alan Shank]

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That's a heeeeeeeel of a big field. Souleiman has three DL wins.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA