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  • #16
    Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

    Originally posted by ATK
    Originally posted by bushop
    Who did Bolt train with pre-2005?
    Fitz Coleman
    In his book, Bolt is critical of Coleman's training methods as they related to him personally. He felt that the injuries he suffered in his early years were as a result of the very physical nature of Coleman's training.

    "I have a condition called scoliosis, which causes my spine to curve to the right and has made my right leg half an inch shorter than the left....When I broke the world junior record, everyone though Mr Coleman's regime had been proved right, but I was concerned about a lack of speed work in my training programme, and it was no surprise to me when I pulled my hamstring as we were preparing for the (2004) Olympics. I knew it all related to my back problems. Mr Coleman was determined I should go to the Olympics, hamstring troubles or not, and we worked to try and get me fit. But then I picked up an Achilles tendon injury in training when turning to avoid another athlete who had stepped across me....My relationship with Mr Coleman wasn't helping. It was not good; he didn't understand me. I had heard good things about Glen Mills, who was a coach to the Jamaican team and also trained athletes at the Hugh Performance Centre. He was more of a sprinters' coach than Mr Coleman, and the other guys were doing well with him, so I asked Mr Mills to take me on, then left it to Mr Peart to negotiate. Glen Mills had coached many top athletes, including the 2003 world 100m champion Kim Collins, and was so different to all my previous coaches. He discussed things with his athletes and worked with them. He didn't just tell you what to do like a teacher in class. He began by trying to find out the reasons for my many injuries and sent me to various doctors, until one discovered the scoliosis and said it explained my hamstring problems....I soon came to trust Mr Mills completely. If I told him I couldn't do something or didn't think an aspect of training suited me, he would talk to me about it. If he then still decided he was right, he would explain why and tell me to get on with it. That was fine by me. I had full confidence in him and that he was making the right call." (Usain Bolt, My Story: 9.58, pp72-5).

    Interestingly, when Melaine Walker left MVP for Track Racers, she said that one of the reasons she was running the 100m hurdles only, instead of doing both the 100m and the 400m hurdles, was because Track Racers didn't have the quality in quarter-miler coaching that MVP did....
    My heart is still in the Caribbean....

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    • #17
      Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

      Is Fitz Coleman still coaching athletes and at what levels ? :|
      "Sprintin' ain't easy,baby !

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      • #18
        Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

        Originally posted by shivfan
        Interestingly, when Melaine Walker left MVP for Track Racers, she said that one of the reasons she was running the 100m hurdles only, instead of doing both the 100m and the 400m hurdles, was because Track Racers didn't have the quality in quarter-miler coaching that MVP did....
        Yet somehow she because Olympic and World Champ with the the # 2 time ever and 3 of the top 9 times in history...

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        • #19
          Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

          Originally posted by ATK
          Originally posted by 18.99s
          Originally posted by dustoff
          Bolt and Blake were formidable before ever going to Mills. Sub 10 and 10flat respectively.
          Bolt didn't run sub-10 until 2008, by which time he was already training with Mills for over a year.
          I thought Bolt was with Mills since about 2005...
          Yes, but I didn't write anything to the contrary.

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          • #20
            Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

            Originally posted by ATK
            Originally posted by shivfan
            Interestingly, when Melaine Walker left MVP for Track Racers, she said that one of the reasons she was running the 100m hurdles only, instead of doing both the 100m and the 400m hurdles, was because Track Racers didn't have the quality in quarter-miler coaching that MVP did....
            Yet somehow she because Olympic and World Champ with the the # 2 time ever and 3 of the top 9 times in history...
            She did those things at MVP. shivfan's point is that she doesn't run the 400mh at Racers Track Club because RTC lacks the quality of 1/4-mile coaching that she had at MVP.
            Regards,
            toyracer

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            • #21
              Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

              Coleman coaches Hansle Parchment. He is a very good coach, just not a good fit for Bolt.
              why don't people pronounce vowels anymore

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              • #22
                Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                Originally posted by toyracer
                Originally posted by ATK
                Originally posted by shivfan
                Interestingly, when Melaine Walker left MVP for Track Racers, she said that one of the reasons she was running the 100m hurdles only, instead of doing both the 100m and the 400m hurdles, was because Track Racers didn't have the quality in quarter-miler coaching that MVP did....
                Yet somehow she because Olympic and World Champ with the the # 2 time ever and 3 of the top 9 times in history...
                She did those things at MVP. shivfan's point is that she doesn't run the 400mh at Racers Track Club because RTC lacks the quality of 1/4-mile coaching that she had at MVP.
                Sorry, I mixed the clubs up in my mind when I read that for some reason.

                Didnt Jermaine Gonzales train with MVP during the 2010-2011 season?

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                • #23
                  Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                  Though I prefer Mills on personal level, Francis has a more lengthy and diverse resumé.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                    Originally posted by betterthanb4
                    Though I prefer Mills on personal level, Francis has a more lengthy and diverse resumé.
                    100% agreed. I'm not a big fan of the taskmaster approach in the coaching athlete relationship though he's (SF) made it work for his group as have the athletes but the success across multiple events gives him the edge in my book.

                    On the other hand with Mills, he took a guy who was a jr. elite/elite in Bolt and helped develop him significantly beyond where he was which is not an easy task to advance them to the proverbial next level (or two or three levels!). Also, and I could well be mistaken here, but didn't UB have some injury history early on and possibly stall out a bit in his performance as a junior? With but a few exceptions, UB has remained relatively healthy under Mills while churning out huge performances.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                      Wow my thread took off without me....


                      I feel like if i was going to choose my own coach I would choose Mills as i would prefer someone who is emotionally supportive as well as technically proficient. Stephen Francis comes off very harsh in the way he deals with some of his athletes and has what some Jamaicans would call a "teg-reg" loud mouth long stick attitude. Having said that his resume gives him a slight notch over Mills. Francis can coach almost any and every event from 100-400 along with hurdles and field events. His athletes are world renown and are a staple on championship podiums. Mills being no slouch has produced what some would say are the best two male sprinters of all time as well as Weir who may likely be one of the greats by the time he reaches his peak.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                        Conte-related commentary removed by mods. Please steer clear of stupid shit like that.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Glenn Mills vs Stephen Francis who is the best in Jamaic

                          Francis as said before is more diversified in the sense that he has trained athletes in many varied events. Also Francis also has a good mixture of good male and female athletes whilst Mills seems to be more focused on male talent. I think definitely Francis. Mills is a great coach but Francis just has much more diversity on so many different levels.

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