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    Perhaps paul can answer this, or others would like to chime in:

    Paul, please understand i'm not trying to pick on you or TB but we all admit/realize that the pace job was absolutely horrible, and perhaps cost some guys the chance for an A standard (perhaps it only cost willis but....). Why is this such a hassle? I recall a year or two ago at stanford, they took william chirchir out in 1:52, and he finished in 3:52 (Mi). what is the point of that??? nobody in the stands wants to see that kind of thing, nor does it attract any non fans enthusiasm to keep watching.
    I understand that TJ pays quite well for the pacemaking duties at Pre, perhaps that needs to be done to make sure a 53/1:54 doesn't happen again. or, simply tell the pacemaker to hold a freakin watch in their hand and STICK TO IT!!! history has proven (with nearly every WR set this way) that negative splits are the way to go. thus, it would be far better to be around 57mid, and have to speed up to 57flat, or 56high, rather than some ridiculous superfast/superslow arraignment. sorry for the rant but it just happens way too often (home depot last year, etheridge in 57low/1:57high, last years boston indoor in 57/1:58, etc.) and i assume it must really piss off the racers who are trying desperately to make what is often an inflated A standard. poor pacing is not going to help one bit. my three cents (since i went a little over .

    joe schmoe

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    Re: Pacing/ Paul Banta/ adidasOregon

    Something tells me Ricky Etheridge was a Pasadena Muir 100m/200m specialist back in high school before knocking on some doors with his 800m/1500m efforts. If the rumor is true, he has a small excuse! If not, well, I am wrong. Nevertheless, I see a lot of 1,500m races here in EU go out in 53 the first 400m and string out the field on the first lap. I don:t see that strategy being an effective one in the USA without a number of in-season 3.30-3.32 runners in the race.

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      Re: Pacing/ Paul Banta/ adidasOregon

      i suppose i didn't expound completely, but isn't that what the race was supposed to be? an A standard chaser for most of those guys...lets see, sully already had it, probably rotich too, that leaves gruber, jennings, miller, thie, aden, hayden, willis (though he came close), myers, turnbull, feigan, and lassiter should have all been at the race to go after it. well, they have a hard time doing so when the pace is so screwed. these are 3:38-3:40 guys we're talking about here. now rotich and sully, those are 3:30-3:31 guys, who can handle that kind of screwup. a kid with a 3:40pb cannot (typically) recover from that. it's too bad, because that was one of three chances in this country, this year. first, shame on the guys who didn't go with webb at home depot, then shame on the poor setup job (byw, who did the pacing for home depot, it was perfect!)

      joe schmoe

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        Re: Pacing/ Paul Banta/ adidasOregon

        Yes, it is a shame that a rabbitting job did not go as planned, but are any of these fine gentlemen you listed really incapable of determing on their own that the opening pace was closer to 54 than 58? I'm sure most have done that kind of pace work numerous times in workouts.

        There is no obligation to follow right on the heels of the rabbit, whether they are running on pace or not, and I don't think it is quite realistic to suggest that the other athletes are complete automatons that do not have the ability to let the leaders go for a bit and run a more rational pace.

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